Will you take the vaccine
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As does Shoei, Arai, Schuberth . . . .
I haven't heard of any settlements paid out by Arai, Shoei, or Schuberth.
However the big pharma opioid settlement was well over 20 BILLION.
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I can't tell if this graph is deaths, infection rates, or ???
It does however show that the Vaccinated, and Not Vaccinated are pretty much coming together.
Note that it either Vaccinated or not. No partially Vaccinated.
No data on age, BMI, diabetes.
Fennellg
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Well as stated previously, given the substantial increase in the funeral business and the increase of life insurance payouts, (15% Funerals, 250 million annual payouts to 1.5 billion or so) ; something is going on and has put us in bad situation. It can’t be explained away with smoke and mirrors, propaganda or wishful thinking. We are not weathering this as well as most.
Totally agree. Very wise words indeed.
Free Health Care. The foundation of a Society. When people are only in it for the Money you get what you get. Our Oxford Vaccine was free to the World they didnt try to make money from it. Greed if only there was a Vaccine for that.I haven't heard of any settlements paid out by Arai, Shoei, or Schuberth.
However the big pharma opioid settlement was well over 20 BILLION.
Flag on the play. The topic has been "fear for something that doesn't exist". The opioid issue was not a fear campaign, it was a "giving people what they wanted" campaign. Just as bad, but totally different. 'Cuz using the above logic, we should be suing Jack Daniels, Anheuser Busch and such for the pain and suffering they've caused.I haven't heard of any settlements paid out by Arai, Shoei, or Schuberth.
However the big pharma opioid settlement was well over 20 BILLION.
Been to enough places in Africa enough times to know that I wouldn't want to live in most of it.
Although I'd always be willing to move to Capetown SA.
A more likely reason for Covid not hitting the population of Africa as hard as the rest of the world is that they have a much lower medien age.The "Western Diet" is well documented as a leading cause of obesity. Riva posted a graphic that showed covid vs other diseases in different countries. In the US covid was the #1 cause of death for the specified time period. But when the graphic showed the "World", heart disease was 75% more deadly than covid. So, either our diet isn't as bad as we thought
I also remember an article connecting "the Pill" and breast cancer. Specifically, they used Africa as a "control" country. The Pill wasn't used in Africa, and their incidence of breast cancer was almost nonexistent.
I guess my point is yeah, the folks in Africa are healthier than most of the world. You don't have to be a genius to know that. They don't have the access to the foods that the US, and most of the world, does. And yes, covid didn't impact them like the rest of the world. They don't have the travel to/from their country that the rest of the world does either.
WJBertrand
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The chart shows deaths between vaccinated and unvaccinated vs. time. The death rate drops for at least two reasons, first the latest variants are less lethal and second many of unvaccinated have had Covid and recovered, so they are essentially vaccinated as well. I couldn’t figure out how to separate that, but I think the data may be there. Also I think total deaths for each group is biasing a bit because ~70% of Americans have had at least one vaccination shot and now comprise a larger portion of the population than the unvaccinated. A more useful and interesting comparison might be to look at percentages of deaths in each group.
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WJBertrand
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As far as being healthier, not sure about that. We still have a longer average life span. This also explains the younger average age. Another factor is how well are these developing countries able to track and report cases?
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In my mind it's not so much fear as lack of trust.
The opioid settlement is a deep rabbit hole that goes way beyond "giving people what they want" .
One politician jokes about "injecting bleach" or one says " I won't take a Trump vaccine"
And the people have lost all trust. We're divided.
The silver lining of all this is: deaths are way down, it's moving from a pandemic to an endemic.
Life here has resumed to pre panic levels. I don't have to show a vaccinated card to attend a concert or sporting event. Or travel.
Herd immunity as per the graph has been reached. Either through vaccine or natural immunity.
Are some going to get sick from Covid and die? Yes, sadly yes.
Actually from what i have read they were pushed onto people. So just taking advantage to make themselves rich.
Fennellg
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Well it has been widely held that Co morbidities greatly increase your risk of a bad outcome with Covid. We are a nation of co morbidities. The mother of all is being heavy. Insulin resistance, diabetes run hand in hand with weight.
I have heard it argued by many doctor that insulin resistance is responsible for 90 percent of the illness that man suffers from.
The old computer programmers saying comes to mind. “Garbage in Garbage Out”
I have heard it argued by many doctor that insulin resistance is responsible for 90 percent of the illness that man suffers from.
The old computer programmers saying comes to mind. “Garbage in Garbage Out”
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Fennellg
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I don’t want to move to Africa either. For that matter Japan, France, or the Arctic. These places generally have better life expectancy and health. Although as the world gets smaller via trade this is changing as is their diet. Ever heard of the French paradox.
I guess what I am trying to say is you are missing the point. It’s not where you live, it’s what you eat. Something said during the Clinton campaign. It’s the economy stupid. Well you get the idea.
I guess what I am trying to say is you are missing the point. It’s not where you live, it’s what you eat. Something said during the Clinton campaign. It’s the economy stupid. Well you get the idea.
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I've heard it . . . . I've seen it . . . . and if a person even for a second considers it . . . . then they need to go ahead and do it. I wouldn't even hold that against Biden if he said it. And I hate him.
Sadly, you are absolutely correct. There seems to be no incentive to do what's right anymore. Politicians, on both sides, seem to be in politics for no other reason than to improve their bank account(s). They yell and scream at each other in public while making accusations of wrongdoing. Meanwhile they go out and drink and socialize together. They care not for We the People. We are just a means to an end. And they know if they keep us fighting amongst ourselves, they can keep moving levers behind the curtain.
and we own it since we elected them……OUCH
Or didnt lol. Our PM was elected by about 5 people. One of them was the cleaner. The others were removal men taking the old one away.
Tenman
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True. Nothing new though.
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