Will you take the vaccine

will you take the vaccine

  • yes

    Votes: 91 37.0%
  • no

    Votes: 24 9.8%
  • maybe later

    Votes: 21 8.5%
  • heck no

    Votes: 30 12.2%
  • BTDT - Got the shot

    Votes: 80 32.5%

  • Total voters
    246
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AusTexS10

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Yup. Quarantined until last Monday. Even been back to the gym, but there was some lasting fatigue.
I had lasting fatigue every time when I left the gym before Covid times. Still not into gym attendance "post"- pandemic. Wish I could feel comfortable with it, but as a 75 year-old asthmatic it is just not worth the risk to me. On the other hand, I hate my de-conditioned (my doctor's term) state at the moment. Take care, everyone, and a quick return to health for all afflicted members.
 

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. . . . Wish I could feel comfortable with it, but as a 75 year-old asthmatic it is just not worth the risk to me. . . .
I completely understand. I've had pneumonia enough times that my lungs aren't what they should be. Combine that with being allergic to about everything, and I have to be careful. What's helped the most is the bicycle. The panting like a dog keeps my lungs clear. Surprisingly enough, the bicycle takes less out of me than the weights post covid, and my lungs feel better faster afterwards. I'm not sure that the bicycle would have the same effects for asthma though.

I'm more worried about catching something at the grocery store or W-M.
 

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I had lasting fatigue every time when I left the gym before Covid times. Still not into gym attendance "post"- pandemic. Wish I could feel comfortable with it, but as a 75 year-old asthmatic it is just not worth the risk to me. On the other hand, I hate my de-conditioned (my doctor's term) state at the moment. Take care, everyone, and a quick return to health for all afflicted members.
I hear you, having gained 20+ lbs in the last couple years. For the new year I'm trying to cut the snacks, beer (at least the quantity), and portions. Dug out the rowing machine & weights and am looking forward to a couple of weeks from now when I ache less because for now it's a bitch.
 

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I got covid the day before I was due to be discharged from hospital. I had no symptoms and had no idea I had it but it delayed my discharge by another 5 days. All I can say is that in my weakened condition after 7 months in hospital I am very grateful that I had been given all the vax and boosters


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I'm already starting to hear claims that the American football player's recent heart attack was due to being vaccinated. Which in turn resulted in lists of "healthy people" dying suddenly for no reason. The claim is that this has never happened before the vaccine. Now, I'm not saying that there haven't been negative health issues due to being vaccinated. But, I also know that people have been dying "for no reason" for decades. I worked with a guy who had a 19-year-old athletic daughter that died. They actually put it down to S.I.D.S. There's also been reports of high school athletes dying on the field or during practice. Long before covid.
 
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I'm already starting to hear claims that the American football player's recent heart attack was due to being vaccinated. Which in turn resulted in lists of "healthy people" dying suddenly for no reason. The claim is that this has never happened before the vaccine. Now, I'm not saying that there haven't been negative health issues due to being vaccinated. But, I also know that people have been dying "for no reason" for decades. I worked with a guy who had a 19-year-old athletic daughter that died. They actually put it down to S.I.D.S. There's also been reports of high school athletes dying on the field or during practice. Long before covid.
I've heard the same crap and as always it's from the conspiracy types. Meanwhile back to reality:

And glad to hear he is starting to recover.
 

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I'm already starting to hear claims that the American football player's recent heart attack was due to being vaccinated. Which in turn resulted in lists of "healthy people" dying suddenly for no reason. The claim is that this has never happened before the vaccine. Now, I'm not saying that there haven't been negative health issues due to being vaccinated. But, I also know that people have been dying "for no reason" for decades. I worked with a guy who had a 19-year-old athletic daughter that died. They actually put it down to S.I.D.S. There's also been reports of high school athletes dying on the field or during practice. Long before covid.
S.I.D.S down here relates to Infants, Sudden Infant Death Syndrome - just wondering how it relates to a 19y old ?
 

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I'm already starting to hear claims that the American football player's recent heart attack was due to being vaccinated. Which in turn resulted in lists of "healthy people" dying suddenly for no reason. The claim is that this has never happened before the vaccine. Now, I'm not saying that there haven't been negative health issues due to being vaccinated. But, I also know that people have been dying "for no reason" for decades. I worked with a guy who had a 19-year-old athletic daughter that died. They actually put it down to S.I.D.S. There's also been reports of high school athletes dying on the field or during practice. Long before covid.
Yeah happens a few times a year with sportsmen in europa. Some time ago one (pre COVID) didn’t survive, others have. They are just using these things to “prove” their point.
 

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S.I.D.S down here relates to Infants, Sudden Infant Death Syndrome - just wondering how it relates to a 19y old ?
Yup. That's what I said when he told me. He was told that there is no age limit. Regardless, I wouldn't be able to accept that my perfectly healthy child just stopped breathing without a reason.
 

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Agreed. I would argue that if the shot caused the heart attack, he shouldn't be able to recover. I mean the shot is still in there, doing what it's doing, if it was truly then cause.
It wasn’t a heart attack, that’s usually caused by a clogged coronary artery. He had a cardiac arrest which is a sudden stopping of the heart beat.

Cardiac arrest due to direct impact against the heart has been known for decades, it’s rare but not new. They had an older hockey player on TV that many years ago took a puck directly in the heart, had a cardiac arrest but survived and recovered.

It’s idiotic for someone to tie it to a vaccine (what the hell would be the mechanism for that anyway?) or to say it never happened before.


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The issue with the covid19 vaccine is that you can no more prove that a death is due to the vaccine than you can prove that it saved you or reduced the severity of the illness.
Wait, actually yes I think you can prove it very easily. You simply need to compare two groups - one who has taken it and one who has not.

There are a few scientific ways of doing it. I believe the T-Test is one of them:

 

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The issue with the covid19 vaccine is that you can no more prove that a death is due to the vaccine than you can prove that it saved you or reduced the severity of the illness.
Yes, and no since most people are genetically different. And when it come to the shot, genetically similar people (AKA family) stick together. They either get it, or they don't. But . . . . my wife and her niece are very similar genetically. My wife had Omicron last year, as did her niece. My wife was "sick" for a week and had relatively mild symptoms. Her niece was "sick" for a month+ and was down hard. My wife is up to date on her shots. The niece has never had one. This was a true apples to apples comparison.

This year, I've had whatever variant it is. As last year, my symptoms were mild, and gone in a week. My wife still has not. But we couldn't be more genetically different. Everybody that I know, that has had the shot, has reported similar experiences: mild symptoms, and gone in a week. Those that are not up to date on their shot(s) have been sicker, longer. Not scientific research, but it is real world.
 

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Possibly because prior to revising the definition of the word, a "vaccine" actually protected you from contracting a disease? (e.g. smallpox, MMR, etc.)
Yeah, that's why I've decided to just call it "the shot". Same as the flu shot. 'Cuz it's not actually a true vaccine.
 

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Wait, actually yes I think you can prove it very easily. You simply need to compare two groups - one who has taken it and one who has not.

There are a few scientific ways of doing it. I believe the T-Test is one of them:

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