What do we now think of the bike

So now you've got one how well does it stack up?

  • It surpasses my expectations

    Votes: 779 56.2%
  • It's exactley what I thought it would be

    Votes: 514 37.1%
  • It's not quite what I thought it would be

    Votes: 88 6.3%
  • It's nothing like I thought it would be

    Votes: 6 0.4%

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shrekonwheels

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cjct21 said:
Hey Guys,

First time post. I am a little disappointed in the power and engine shudder at about 3200-3700Rpm, however I am still in break in period (only 150 miles). Hopefully this will improve with time. And from what I read on this very helpful forum there are solutions to each problem. On the good side the bike is super comfy (6 3" and 270).
My shudder either went away or I got used to it, but yea the acceleration vibe was very annoying.
You can do the Jumper mod for another 12 ponies and apparently re flashing makes a big diff.
Mine came with the mod and a PC, power seems just fine for me :) ::021::
 

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cjct21 said:
Hey Guys,

First time post. I am a little disappointed in the power and engine shudder at about 3200-3700Rpm, however I am still in break in period (only 150 miles). Hopefully this will improve with time. And from what I read on this very helpful forum there are solutions to each problem. On the good side the bike is super comfy (6 3" and 270).
What are you coming over from? For about a year I was parking my S10 next to my old Speed Triple. But, the S10 is just so much more versatile that I ended letting the Speedy drown in dust and start to grow things. A couple of weeks ago I got the ECU flashed and now I'm even more smitten... $500 and it's a lot more lively bike. You may want to give it a shot once you've spent some time on it. I've gone through quite a few bikes over the years, and this is the first one I've decided I'll keep forever... It may get a friend or two, but it's not going anywhere.
 

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I just hit 300 miles so I am a S10 noob. So far, it is everything I hoped it would be. I do have one minor observation. I tried T mode and do not get it. Compared to S, it is too sedate for my preferences.
 

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Think T = technical

Seldom have myself in situations, other than foul weather, where it's real technical. But offroad, when it does get that way, T mode is very forgiving.

These are amazing times. We can push a button and have a completely different power delivery.
 

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Yesterday afternoon, I had my S10 offroad for the first time. The conditions were sand mixed with slush, with many large puddles thrown in. I should try the T setting in the woods. On a related note... the traction control is a strange sensation in the sand. Of course, I was trying to get it to engage just to see how far it will retard the engine.


I am very impressed by how the S10 handled in the woods. It really is a giant dirt bike. After getting a feel for the bike, I started ripping through some sand and mud. The suspension is way better than my 2012 Vstrom, which has seen these same trails. Now, for the really bizarre observation.... The S10 felt lighter than my Vstrom 650. It was easier to control in deep sand and it was more composed over rough spots.




snakebitten said:
Think T = technical

Seldom have myself in situations, other than foul weather, where it's real technical. But offroad, when it does get that way, T mode is very forgiving.

These are amazing times. We can push a button and have a completely different power delivery.
 

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You didn't mention the TCS setting, but the bike sure does better in soft stuff with the TCS turned down or off.
 

78YZ

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I haven't touched the TCS setting since taking delivery. It is set on 1. As I get more time on the bike, I will take your advice and try turning it off. Thanks.

Checkswrecks said:
You didn't mention the TCS setting, but the bike sure does better in soft stuff with the TCS turned down or off.
 

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I had the 600 mile service done last Wednesday, then set off for Edinburgh on Friday morning. of course it was pouring down with rain and the temperature about 4 deg cent. I was accompanied by my mate Dave on his Triumph 1200 Trophy, we had a slight detour into the Pennine hills to visit a motorcycle clothing shop in Darwen, as we drew near I saw cars covered in snow and the hill tops were white, I was beginning to have second thoughts, we had only done about 30 miles and still had another 200 to do.
By the time we arrived at the shop we were cold and my fifteen year old gloves had leaked in water, so forty quid lighter I was the proud owner of a pair of Halversons finest waterproof digit warmers, coupled with the S10's heated grips I began to feel warm and cosey and ready to face the rest of the journey. We travelled north using a mixture of motorway and back country roads, and luckily the further north we went the dryer it got ::012::
The S10 handled the twisty, damp, gravel strewen roads admirably, but dave was struggling a bit with the pace on his Trophy. I was able to set myself a nice brisk pace, at first with the bike on tour mode, but then threw caution to the wind and went to sport mode, what a difference this setting makes. I was still keeping the revs to around 5k with perhaps the odd quick burst to 6k for overtaking. We arrived in Auld Reekie about 4.30pm, we were staying at a pals apartment, and had a cracking good night out on the town.
Saturday was an early start north accompanied by Mike our host on his Moto Guzzi Stelvio, we went past Glen Eagles golf course heading for Crieff, Aberfeldy and Glen Lyon. We had intended to ride over the pass on Ben Lawers but the cloud was heavy on the mountain tops and there looked to be a lot of snow, a farmer confirming that parts of the road were still covered in snow so we carried on past Loch Tay. At this point I noticed my hands were unusually cold, my heated grips had failed :mad: I had a quick look at all the fuses not knowing which one covered the grips, all seemed OK. We got back to Edinburgh about 5pm, I was well pi**ed off with my cold hands.
This morning we left Edinburgh at 10am for our 220 mile trip south to return home, the odometer was showing over 1000mls now, so I started to wind the bike up a lot more. The A701 to Moffat is a fantastic road, plenty of twists and turns, undulating through some fantastic scenery, I was now in my element, the roads were drying out, not much traffic, and the S10 was just lapping it up, I was grinning like a Cheshire cat, I don't know why some people think this bike is slow or underpowered, we were moving at a slick pace, nothing passed us, luckily there were no police patrols or we would have been in serious trouble, and I still haven't taken it past 7k, I was finding changing gear at 6k quick enough, I can't wait to see what it feels like once it's got another couple of thousand miles under it's belt.
Overall I'm very impressed with the S10, I find it comfortable, easy to ride about town, easy to manouver at low speed, it handles fast bumpy back roads really well, and will cruise comfortably at 90mph (conditions and speed limits permitting ;) ) Compared to my previous bike, a Stelvio NTX, I would say the Yam is let down by it's brakes, they do not have the feel and sensitivity like the Guzzi's Brembos, handling on road is as good, but the Guzzi engine has more of an edge to it and sounds better. My only real complaint is the heated grips packing in, I would have expected electrical problems on my Stelvio (had no issues at all), but not on a Yamaha.
So I'm glad I bought the S10, and hope I have as good a time with it as I did the Stelvio.
 

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78YZ said:
I haven't touched the TCS setting since taking delivery. It is set on 1. As I get more time on the bike, I will take your advice and try turning it off. Thanks.
Checkswreck is right on 78YZ

TC1 is a zero-slip setting. It is intentionally designed to be so.
And for that reason, it is not intended for surface conditions that require the rear tire to turn at an increased rate compared to the front.

Put another way, if you were on a dirt bike, a car, truck, or golf cart, and you were on the sand, it is only natural for your rear (drive) tires to spin or slip a bit before forward movement would be accomplished. For that reason, Yamaha created TC2 to allow the rear wheel to turn at some ratio that is an increase of 1to1.

Try it next time. It will feel much more natural and the bike will be much smoother.

AND, it's more fun!
(easier on the drivetrain too. Especially if you catch yourself clutching to compensate for TC1)
 

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TCS

Thanks, snakebitten. I will try TCS2. Yesterday, I took a ride in the state forest with TCS off. I live 25 miles from 1 million acres of protected pinelands; complete with hundreds of miles of legal fire roads. The only catch is that the roads are sandy. Although I grew-up riding these conditions, that was on small displacement two and four stroke singles; none of which had TCS or ABS. Many of them did not even have e-start. ;)

When I turned-off TCS, I felt more comfortable. The S10 handles fire roads more confidently than my Vstrom. I had to keep reminding myself I was on a 1200. Another observation is that I never even thought about ABS. It is well implemented on this bike. Life is good!

 

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My pleasure!

The road(s) in that picture is perfect for this bike. THAT is why we want a big comfortable mile eating machine that doesn't have to turn away when the pavement ends.
And, TC2 is the best of both worlds, on a road like that. The fun of a bit of rear tire hooliganism, like tcs-off affords, but with the safety net of the computer reining things in if you over estimate your 600lb motocross skills. ???

I got a feeling you are gonna be one of the S10's that gets really smitten with this machine. And with access to treks like those, it won't be long before you discover the FUN you can have with dirty tires.
 

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snakebitten said:
I got a feeling you are gonna be one of the S10's that gets really smitten with this machine. And with access to treks like those, it won't be long before you discover the FUN you can have with dirty tires.
Yes, I can see where a set of K60s or TKC80s would make this bike outrageously fun in the dirt.

If you are interested in dirt bikes, here is the best one I've owned to date, a KTM 200EXC. It even had a street legal registration and license plate. Insurance was $150 per year.
 

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EXC's are wicked cool.
Got me one. It's in tow as we speak, heading for the Mexican Border with some crazy Tenere inmates.
 

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Goldwing said:
The more I ride it the more I love it!!
That's exactly what I was saying the other day. 3500 km and I'm really getting settled in. This one's a keeper.

 

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Well I went to my grandson's birthday party last week. Plenty of beer as there should be with a herd of 3 year old's running around. But I drank soda so I could ride my bike after the party.

That's how much I like this bike! ::008::
 

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CentralCal said:
Well I went to my grandson's birthday party last week. Plenty of beer as there should be with a herd of 3 year old's running around. But I drank soda so I could ride my bike after the party.

That's how much I like this bike! ::008::
You choose wisely, Grasshopper
 

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Picked up mine a week ago. Just came off a 2001 Kawasaki Concours. The Tenere is way more comfortable and maneuverable.... The engine is smooth and responsive. I've had sport bikes, street bikes and dirt bikes. So far this is my favorite. This is also the first time I've ever owned a brand new motorcycle!
 
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