Madhatter wants a dirt bike….

[Madhatter]

graham Jarvis is not normal and not starting at 60 and now pushing 63 . recluse has its place and it was on the bike and as ballisticchris says you can use it as normal . I can work a clutch as good as anyone , its the rest of the skills like balance or doing a small wheelie to pop over a log . that's what im learning . ballistichris is not wrong on the recluse , it can be set to normal clutch , you can shift gears just like a regular clutch . hopefully by time its toast I want care what clutch system I use . plenty of logs on the place to practice on . Carrot a forum member has been riding dirt bikes since he was a kid and it shows . he is twice as fast at anything we do . we play follow the leader what he does I try to do , good practice for me to try to get to his level . his Yamaha 250f stalled on him 4 times yesterday he said , not the beta . he was impressed with the recluse on how easy it was to do some things . but doubt he would buy one for himself . the honda 450 x is a very good bike but all the stalls was giving me a complex ,can't trust it when I need it most . who wants to ride through boulders when it might flame out at any moment . crawling was not its thing . so now im starting fresh ,doing the basics all over again .

 

[Mak10]

Graham Jarvis is my hero. The man has a natural talent.

 

[ballisticexchris]

Great reply there Chris, Always cast doubt on others abilities and skill so you sound like an expert.

Easy now, I never claimed to be an expert. I'm not even that good of a rider. You are the one who is attempting to cast doubt:

rekluse are for guys that don't know how to ride a real bike.

IMO that is a cheap shot at a device that has proven to work for experts and novices alike.

That's simply not true. It forces the bike into neutral once the revs drop to a certain RPM so it's next to impossible to do really slow speed technical offroad riding. Here's a free lesson on clutch control from Graham Jarvis.

It can be tuned with weights and springs and idle set to not freewheel at idle. With proper tuning Rekluse clutch works for each individual riders ability.

 

[ballisticexchris]

Don't worry about the naysayers Terry. You and I both know that there are very few riders that have the ability of these pro level guys. I have been using Rekluse clutches since 2005. You are going to love how it performs. And the cool thing is you can jump right on a bike without it and still ride normal.

Oh I might suggest you spend the money and get the new Left Hand Rear Brake that for pre order.

LEFT HAND REAR BRAKE KIT | Rekluse

The perfect complement to a Rekluse auto clutch, the left hand rear brake kit allows riders to fully operate the rear brake using only their left hand. The rear foot pedal is still operational at any point in time.

rekluse.com

I have a modified mountain bike brake that I use on my Beta. You can retrofit your clutch to act as brake only but I don't suggest it. I had my 300 set up with no clutch lever and just the brake. It was acceptable but nowhere near as good as having both clutch and brake functions.

The LHRB gives you a lot of control in right hand turns and terrain you need concentration and reflexes that we lose as we age. Some guys ditch the foot brake altogether. I like both.

 

[Madhatter]

I have thought about( back a couple of years ago when I first started researching what dirt bike I would buy) adding a left hand rear brake , if nothing else it looks cool. make people ask what's that ? why? hmmmmm.
what I did notice flying down hill (and I knew this but had forgotten about it ) no compression braking . so I had to use the brakes .
I have had people tell me that somethings wrong with my rear brake light on the Tenere , but its ok( not really ok as they don't notice I'm slowing till they are on my ass ) just using compression braking . the honda had good compression braking ..... 2 stroke , nope. I was going down a trail so I down shifted , not much happened to slow me , need to use the brakes . so thanks for the reminder (a farkle I can add ) .

 

[Mak10]

So are you ready to go back to Moab? Some real fun and challenging rides.

 

[Madhatter]

Sounds interesting

 

[Madhatter]

Still need some practice , lol

 

[scott123007]

Sorry guys, Chris is full of shit on many of his opinions, but he is 100 percent correct about the Rekluse.

 

[ballisticexchris]

Bring n extra pipe or two with you for Moab! LOL As far as the LHRB goes there are a few features that make it useful.

Steep hillclimbs when you stall or have to turn around with engine off. No freewheeling of the back wheel.

Loading and unloading the bike.

Switchbacks.

Right foot down trail turns using only throttle and brake to control wheel hight.

Much easier to do direction changes and control wheel lockup with hand vs foot. Once your Rekluse clutch is tuned to your liking you can ride with a finger hovered over the LHRB and make the bike do all kinds of neat stuff you never thought possible.

Sorry guys, Chris is full of shit on many of his opinions, but he is 100 percent correct about the Rekluse.

I would dare say that almost all my comments are not of opinion but personal experience and observations. Tire choice being a big one that has zero opinion based comments from me. The Rekluse was a game changer.

I originally bought mine for Hare and Hound racing to get off the line quickly. With my Rubbermaid step, bike warmed up in 2nd gear, I was almost always in the top 10 off the line in the bomb run. Not having to do 50+ mph where you can't sea past your fender in the dust was an amazing improvement.

 

[Tenman]

I rode my CR500 in the hair scrambles for years. When I put the auto clutch on it. It was a game changer. I don’t have a lhrb. We are mostly flatlanders. My riding buddy has a CR500 too. He rode mine and got him an auto clutch too. It works great in technical stuff. The heavier flywheel I installed calmed my bad boy.

 

[twinrider]

graham Jarvis is not normal and not starting at 60 and now pushing 63 . recluse has its place and it was on the bike and as ballisticchris says you can use it as normal . I can work a clutch as good as anyone , its the rest of the skills like balance or doing a small wheelie to pop over a log . that's what im learning . ballistichris is not wrong on the recluse , it can be set to normal clutch , you can shift gears just like a regular clutch . hopefully by time its toast I want care what clutch system I use . plenty of logs on the place to practice on . Carrot a forum member has been riding dirt bikes since he was a kid and it shows . he is twice as fast at anything we do . we play follow the leader what he does I try to do , good practice for me to try to get to his level . his Yamaha 250f stalled on him 4 times yesterday he said , not the beta . he was impressed with the recluse on how easy it was to do some things . but doubt he would buy one for himself . the honda 450 x is a very good bike but all the stalls was giving me a complex ,can't trust it when I need it most . who wants to ride through boulders when it might flame out at any moment . crawling was not its thing . so now im starting fresh ,doing the basics all over again .

I rode my CR500 in the hair scrambles for years. When I put the auto clutch on it. It was a game changer. I don’t have a lhrb. We are mostly flatlanders. My riding buddy has a CR500 too. He rode mine and got him an auto clutch too. It works great in technical stuff. The heavier flywheel I installed calmed my bad boy.

I can see where a Rekluse would make things easy on terrain that's not too challenging but there's a good reason why no serious enduro rider uses one. I'll just leave this vid here for anyone who wants to expand their perspective.

 

[Madhatter]

you need to understand one thing , I'm not a serious enduro rider and will never be one. I am a recreational rider who is trying to have some fun and learn something new. the bike already had the recluse on it , the bike is one year old had 22 hours on it when I put it in my truck . I think the recluse is pretty nifty . there are guys who think ABS is not for real riders , and there was a time when drivers said seat belts are bull. ABS has saved my bacon on the Tenere twice , seat belt saved me from injury in a major vehicle crash in September . and this recluse made my riding easier Saturday with less worries I was going to stall fall and that was more fun.

 

[Madhatter]

and one other small thing im not afraid of a clutch , used it a plenty on the honda . actually think using a clutch as intended is pretty much fun. but im not going to ditch the recluse cause a few of you purist think I should . when this thing finally goes south and needs a major clutch plate overhaul I will probably go back to a real clutch . I bought my new mustang especially because it has a clutch . my day job is I drive 18 wheelers with 13 speed transmissions and it has a clutch . I teach new drivers how to use a clutch . in 1972 my dad gave me my driving lesson in a manual 3 on a tree . I understand all about clutches , If you don't like recluse that's cool , and as I said before if it was not on the bike already I would probably not buy one . im riding again Saturday , im liking this bike , is it the recluse or is it the 2 stroke . time will tell . but it making this easy so far and who don't like easy.

 

[scott123007]

rekluse are for guys that don't know how to ride a real bike.

Jesus Steve, you sound like a Harley rider bitchen about electric starters. LOL

 

[Mak10]

Jesus Steve, you sound like a Harley rider bitchen about electric starters. LOL

A guys got to have some standards.

 

[ballisticexchris]

I can see where a Rekluse would make things easy on terrain that's not too challenging but there's a good reason why no serious enduro rider uses one. I'll just leave this vid here for anyone who wants to expand their perspective.

That is one mans opinion with a Rekluse that is not properly tuned.

Terry I doubt very much you will have to do any tuning to yours. The guys that do the BYOB have done thousands of these installs on the new 300RR. So I imagine yours is going to be great right out of the box as long as you check your freeplay gain regularly.

Here are some Rekluse clutch tuning tips from Jimmy Lewis:

Rekluse haters gonna hate, braggers gonna brag. And some are not gonna ride anything more challenging that groomed track, 4WD roads, or have their wheels on anything other than what puts miles under their belt. I can see where a Rekluse will be a waste of money for those folks.

Anyone who rides can remember this same argument came up when electric starts for dirt bikes came around. I think all of us that have been riding awhile knows how to use a clutch, tune a carb, kick start a bike, ride without antilock brakes, crummy low travel suspension etc.

I love all these new products and technologies that bring our riding to a level not possible otherwise. The average rider is not going to ride at the level of a pro nor be able to navigate some of the terrain with fun.

Riding a bike to me is supposed to be fun and enjoyable. A lot of the trails I like to ride can be pure torture after a mile or so. My fitness level is not what it was when I was 35 or 45 years old. Having an electric start, LHRB, Rekluse, and a 2T that does not flame out can keep us plugging away and extend our riding for the day and not be beat up the next day.

Here is a short video of some of the terrain where an electric start and Rekluse are a godsend. This is after only 5 miles of torturous rocks that had this guy and the rest of the riders in our group tuck tail and take a fire road back to camp at the end. I was pretty beat up myself but this young lady just bought a new KTM500 and wanted to finish out the ride so I obliged her so she did not have to ride alone:

 

[Madhatter]

So far I like it and that’s good enough for me

 

[ballisticexchris]

Very nice bike for sure. 300's are known as a 3 stroke!! You are going to be amazed how low you can chug that bike. It will make usable power right from idle. I have a 10 paddle you can borrow if you decide to hit the dunes and want to scream the motor!!

 

[Cycledude]

That is one mans opinion with a Rekluse that is not properly tuned.

Terry I doubt very much you will have to do any tuning to yours. The guys that do the BYOB have done thousands of these installs on the new 300RR. So I imagine yours is going to be great right out of the box as long as you check your freeplay gain regularly.

Here are some Rekluse clutch tuning tips from Jimmy Lewis:

Rekluse haters gonna hate, braggers gonna brag. And some are not gonna ride anything more challenging that groomed track, 4WD roads, or have their wheels on anything other than what puts miles under their belt. I can see where a Rekluse will be a waste of money for those folks.

Anyone who rides can remember this same argument came up when electric starts for dirt bikes came around. I think all of us that have been riding awhile knows how to use a clutch, tune a carb, kick start a bike, ride without antilock brakes, crummy low travel suspension etc.

I love all these new products and technologies that bring our riding to a level not possible otherwise. The average rider is not going to ride at the level of a pro nor be able to navigate some of the terrain with fun.

Riding a bike to me is supposed to be fun and enjoyable. A lot of the trails I like to ride can be pure torture after a mile or so. My fitness level is not what it was when I was 35 or 45 years old. Having an electric start, LHRB, Rekluse, and a 2T that does not flame out can keep us plugging away and extend our riding for the day and not be beat up the next day.

Here is a short video of some of the terrain where an electric start and Rekluse are a godsend. This is after only 5 miles of torturous rocks that had this guy and the rest of the riders in our group tuck tail and take a fire road back to camp at the end. I was pretty beat up myself but this young lady just bought a new KTM500 and wanted to finish out the ride so I obliged her so she did not have to ride alone:

did you post the wrong video ? I saw absolutely nothing about you or a young lady completing a ride