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The Beta 300 can lug down to idle. I had a little saddle time on my buddies 2013 shop 300RR. It's amazing how stall proof it was when paddling up nasty stuff. With the oil injection it will deliver the right amount for throttle impute. Don't forget to play with your clickers and set the sag.

You want right at about 105mm sag. If you have to crank in the preload too much, stiffen the rebound and compression 3 clicks. The high speed compression knob is about 3 clicks to every 1 click of the low speed.

Another VERY IMPORTANT tip is to regularly adjust the freeplay gain in your clutch. If you don't you will toast the plates in short order. Warm up the bike, click in neutral and grab the clutch with a finger light pressure. Blip the throttle and the lever should move inward 1/8"-1/4". It varies from bike to bike. Mine seems to like 3mm.

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You are going to love this bike Terry!
 
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BTW, I'm not sure of your skill level. The 105mm sag is based on a rider doing all around trail plunking. If you are running high speed desert at 50+MPH then 110mm is a good baseline number. For tight motocross tracks 100mm.

If you plan on doing anything with rocks, roots, ruts, tree banging etc, Get a Scotts or GPR damper. A damper is a safety investment.
 

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good information , I will be calling you on the phone at some point ..... tomorrow I'm going to carrots place and we will be playing with it because I no nothing about its current set up. im not much on the high speed dirt stuff , I like the woods . my dirt skill level is not great im so much better on the street . but a did do the white rim trail in Moab on my 2012 Tenere little over a year ago. this bike has Sachs zf closed cartridge forks .
 

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The previous owner spent some money on this bike. The rekluse alone 800 or more. Never tried a rekluse should make things simple. Bike not quite as tall as the Honda should not fall off as far . Lol.
If you're riding around an MX course or similar open riding you may like the rekluse, but if you're doing really technical riding you will hate it as it takes away all your clutch control at slow speeds. I have two good friends who found that out and promptly got rid of them. That's the reason you'll never see them being used by the serious hard enduro riders, much less the pros.
 

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I didn’t buy the rekluse, the original owner did . But it’s there and I will use it . It actually performed well today. If and or when it dies I will probably go back to a clutch. Till then I will enjoy.
 

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Just so everyone knows, I’m 63 in a month, not going to be a serious hard enduro rider . Recreational rider learning to handle my bike a bit better.
 

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Got up to a cool morning went to carrots place for some riding , a very nice day it was.
 

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so my impression the beta is its a nice bike . engine was crisp , power if I wanted it . but not an over whelming power hit . snap wheelies were easy (still need practice on that ) . recluse clutch thing allowed me to ride more relaxed , took the worry away on flame out or what I call the stall fall. did not take any woods photos ,you can see the trees behind us in some photos . the terrain is rocky in places and some sand here and there . the trees are fairly thick with cactus mixed in there . so mostly first gear and some second gear mixed in . some wide open land let us open the bikes up a bit ,did a fourth gear run at one point, bike suspension is very nice (did set the sag before riding this morning ) previous owner was about my size and it seemed his clicker choices were pretty good especially the rear shock .
over all I am pleased with the bike so far . I was feeling comfortable on it fairly quickly ..... the bike did not do anything that would give me pause . so I am happy . just need more practice .
 

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rekluse are for guys that don't know how to ride a real bike.
Honestly, I'd be happy to have a rekluse on my S10 or any other street bike so I wouldn't have to pull the clutch in at every red light or stop sign. But no thanks on a dirt bike where the clutch is critical for basic maneuvers like balancing at a stop, crossing logs etc. Couldn't imagine Pol Tarres could pull off this move with a rekluse on his bike.


 
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rekluse are for guys that don't know how to ride a real bike.
That's always the first argument that comes from someone who has no clue how they work. I can ride with or without. It is a fantastic tool when the terrain gets really tough. When you are rock crawling for hours on walking pace trails where you are bulldogging the bike a Rekluse is well appreciated.

The Reklulse is seamless and can do everything a normal clutch can do and much more. Another advantage is they are very tunable with weights and springs. And if you don't like it a simple turn of the allen wrench on the slave will make it into a normal standard clutch just like stock.

A good rider can do everything in the video above and much more with the Rekluse. BTW, It's now available for the Tenere 700!!
 

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Great reply there Chris, Always cast doubt on others abilities and skill so you sound like an expert.
 

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That's always the first argument that comes from someone who has no clue how they work. I can ride with or without. It is a fantastic tool when the terrain gets really tough. When you are rock crawling for hours on walking pace trails where you are bulldogging the bike a Rekluse is well appreciated.

The Reklulse is seamless and can do everything a normal clutch can do and much more. Another advantage is they are very tunable with weights and springs. And if you don't like it a simple turn of the allen wrench on the slave will make it into a normal standard clutch just like stock.

A good rider can do everything in the video above and much more with the Rekluse. BTW, It's now available for the Tenere 700!!
That's simply not true. It forces the bike into neutral once the revs drop to a certain RPM so it's next to impossible to do really slow speed technical offroad riding. Here's a free lesson on clutch control from Graham Jarvis.

"Clutch control is the fundamental exercise in extreme enduro technical riding. Graham talks about finding the right spot when clutch engages & disengages and then practicing it in doing Figure 8. Besides learning clutch control this exercise will help a rider to improve his/her balancing skills as well. "

 
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