Clutch Basket Remove/Upgrade/Installation

[GaryAA]

What is a CCT?

 

[HHH]

What is a CCT?

Cam Chain Tensioner

 

[Mzee]

At Partsfish the price of the clutch basket: 23P-16150-00-00 for 2012 Yamaha SUPER TENERE (XTZ12BB) 356.88$ and for 2014 Yamaha SUPER TENERE (XTZ12ECGY) for 290.24$ What is the big difference? The part number is the same.

 

[Don in Lodi]

The first three numbers are different, 2BS- vs 23P- They are structurally different, and the 2014 weighs almost a pound more.

 

[Mzee]

The first three numbers are different, 2BS- vs 23P- They are structurally different, and the 2014 weighs almost a pound more.

Thank you, a none technically and mechanically oriented like me is terribly grateful for this write-up.

 

[Mzee]

Would it be a good thing to replace the clutch plates and clutch pressure plate?

 

[Don in Lodi]

How many miles on the bike? Do you do a lot of bashing around off road where slipping the clutch might be happening a lot?

 

[Koinz]

Would it be a good thing to replace the clutch plates and clutch pressure plate?

Yamaha does have measurable specs for the disks. Replacing the disks is very easy and does not require removing the basket again, so you can re-use them and when the clutch does begin to slip or the discs wear below specs, you can replace them at that time.

 

[Mzee]

How many miles on the bike? Do you do a lot of bashing around off road where slipping the clutch might be happening a lot?

85, 000km. I don't think the clutch is slipping yet. Just thought prevention is better than cure. Again form Koinz response it seems you don't have to do the entire set, you can replace only those that are worn out. Is this a correct insight?

 

[Koinz]

85, 000km. I don't think the clutch is slipping yet. Just thought prevention is better than cure. Again form Koinz response it seems you don't have to do the entire set, you can replace only those that are worn out. Is this a correct insight?

no, I would replace them all. Not even sure you can buy 1 disc. I think it just comes in a set except for the very first plate yamaha calls #1. you have to buy that one separately.

Same as replacing Brakes - You don't replace one brake pad. You replace them in a set and that's the only way you can buy them.
Here's an online price that shows the Qty for 7 (set)

 

[cosmic]

You can definitely buy one, but I didn't even heard of someone replacing one or few.

 

[Rasher]

Thinking of doing CCT and Clutch basket at the big 24k service.

I will try and get the UK price for the basket, I expect it will be about the same in £ as it is in dollars as Yamaha love to rip us Brits off at every chance - still cheaper than trading up to the 2014 model.

 

[Koinz]

no, I would replace them all. Not even sure you can buy 1 disc. I think it just comes in a set except for the very first plate yamaha calls #1. you have to buy that one separately.

Same as replacing Brakes - You don't replace one brake pad. You replace them in a set and that's the only way you can buy them.
Here's an online price that shows the Qty for 7 (set)

I stand corrected. You can purchase them individually through Yamaha. They don't sell "sets".

 

[Don in Lodi]

Thinking of doing CCT and Clutch basket at the big 24k service.

I will try and get the UK price for the basket, I expect it will be about the same in £ as it is in dollars as Yamaha love to rip us Brits off at every chance - still cheaper than trading up to the 2014 model.

You know, it's prolly not Yamaha that's charging more, it's the guv'mint throwing additional import duties on Asian imports to 'level the playing field'.
IMO.

 

[Mzee]

no, I would replace them all. Not even sure you can buy 1 disc. I think it just comes in a set except for the very first plate yamaha calls #1. you have to buy that one separately.

Same as replacing Brakes - You don't replace one brake pad. You replace them in a set and that's the only way you can buy them.
Here's an online price that shows the Qty for 7 (set)

Thank you. Just curious when replacing the clutch plates, does one have to replace according to the picture 4 through to 11 or just 9 and 10?

 

[Koinz]

Thank you. Just curious when replacing the clutch plates, does one have to replace according to the picture 4 through to 11 or just 9 and 10?

There is a wear limit for each of the friction discs. It appears that #11 is thicker than 9-10 plates. If your not sure if they have reached their wear limit, it might be better to replace them all.
If the clutch is not slipping, measure the disc when their out and plan appropriately. I re-used my discs.

 

[~TABASCO~]

I've not read of anyone posting about a few of the other parts when replacing the new basket. Has anyone else ordered or installed the new bearing {93511-32027-00} or seal {93210-06632-00} at the end of the push rod. The bearing is a 'new' part number that supersedes the 12-13, but I don't know if there is any real difference?

 

[avc8130]

I've not read of anyone posting about a few of the other parts when replacing the new basket. Has anyone else ordered or installed the new bearing {93511-32027-00} or seal {93210-06632-00} at the end of the push rod. The bearing is a 'new' part number that supersedes the 12-13, but I don't know if there is any real difference?

Clearly there is a difference, otherwise Yamaha wouldn't have changed the P/N. Why don't you be the pioneer and try it?

I, personally, did not change it. Honestly I didn't even notice the different part numbers. Otherwise, for $4 total I would have.

 

[~TABASCO~]

Clearly there is a difference, otherwise Yamaha wouldn't have changed the P/N. Why don't you be the pioneer and try it?

I, personally, did not change it. Honestly I didn't even notice the different part numbers. Otherwise, for $4 total I would have.

I'm going to, parts on order...

 

[OldRider]

Looks like the CCT's are on backorder now.