Clutch Basket Remove/Upgrade/Installation

[Boondocker]

Add me to the list of clutch basket upgraders. It was a little disconcerting how the exposed springs in the old basket rattle around so much. I don't believe there was any every risk of failure, just a low-tolerance part. It's no wonder the new basket is so much quieter.

Of course it's not really a project unless you have to make at least one trip to the hardware store. Turns out I didn't have a socket to fit the shaft nut, so bought a 1-3/16". I used a vice-grip type clutch holder tool with a socket in the plugged frame hole to hold it. No problem getting the nut off or on with a manual torque wrench. Could have reused the gasket but had already bought one so used the new gasket and new nut. At 46,000 miles, everything behind the right side engine cover looked pristine. ::022::

Initially my clutch engagement was right at the beginning of let-out (don't know how to state that properly). So I stalled the bike at first go. Rode it around for while with plenty of shifting and launching. By the time I got back to my driveway, it felt normal. So maybe the disks have to seat in. I didn't see any reason to remove the first disk and thin retainer wire, so I just left it in. Put everything back according to service manual.

With the revised CCT and 2014 clutch basket, the bike has less rattles and vibes than when new.

 

[Don in Lodi]

Thanks,

As soon as I have confirmation of my trip I will try and find a US dealer - thinking of seeing if I can find one near where I will be staying to pick it up, or if not see if I can get the parts shipped to the office where I am based from any other US dealer.

Just spoke a relative who goes to the states a lot, he said he can always bring one back as he travels there several times a year so should be good one way or another.

Not too bothered about customs, even after paying duty it is still less than half UK price - if only I could get a whole bike back in a suitcase.

Old school entertainment; MASH, there was an episode where Radar was mailing a Jeep home, bit by bit.

 

[Ramseybella]

I may have to travel to the US on business, as the Clutch Basket is less than half the UK price I was wondering if this could be brought back in my luggage :question:

Could raise a few questions at customs at both ends - and I know I might have to pay 20% duty at the UK end, but it would still be half price.

May as well see if I can grab a CCT at the same time.

Does anyone know how long it takes US Yamaha dealers to order parts, I will only be there Monday - Friday.

In my Opinion skip the Yam CCT and install a manual unit.

 

[tomatocity]

In my Opinion skip the Yam CCT and install a manual unit.

Before adding the manual CCT, I would check with your dealer about warranty.

 

[Dogdaze]

Before adding the manual CCT, I would check with your dealer about warranty.

I'm quite sure Rasher's S10 is out of warranty. As would be the case with most 2010-2013 registered bikes in the UK and Europe, only the US have the YES warranty package.

 

[terryth]

I finally got around to changing my new updated clutch basket that I bought several months ago while changing my oil today. It was a simple 20 minute job and made a very noticeable difference in the vibes of my ST ::018::

 

[twflybum]

Just updated mine last night. Been sitting on the shelf for about a year now so it was time. Especially since I've been entertaining upgrading my 2012 to a leftover 2014. I won't be upgrading now! Should have done it last winter. I was fortunate and got it when the pricing error was in effect, but I would say it would be worth the current price. The smoother low rpm vibes (~1500) are now the same all the way through the rev range. And the engine is noticeably quieter without those loose springs rattling around from the original basket design. (Bike @ ~11k miles)

Between this update and harmonizing my throttle bodies a few weeks back (Thanks to Grok selling the Harmonizer again), feels like a different engine. (Syncing the TB with the right side ~3/4 turns out completely eliminated the off-idle stumble). ::012:: ::013::

::018::

 

[Motor301]

I just got all my pieces for my upgrade today! Next oil change I hope to get everything in!

 

[Motor301]

Got everything in tonight. Easy, easy, easy. I replaced all my clutch plates/discs as well as the pressure plate. I had some shuddering in my clutch during slow speed riding and heavy traffic. Most of the stock pieces looked ok, except the narrow one held by the wire clip. That disc was nearly black and looked completely worn out. I meant to take a picture, but forgot.

The new clutch and pressure plate engages so much smoother, and of course, no vibrations. I used the black springs in the pressure plate. Little bit heavier clutch feel, but not too much at all. Super happy with it.

Now just need new tires...

 

[mercurydog47]

What does the Barnett clutch basket conversion do? Is it an auto clutch like the Rekluse?

 

[Dogdaze]

What does the Barnett clutch basket conversion do? Is it an auto clutch like the Rekluse?

It's not a Barnett clutch basket. It is the updated clutch basket from the >2014 model that has rubber dampers as opposed to the spring based unit on the pre-2014 model, this upgrade (not a factory bulletin) has been used to eliminate the chudder experienced by many owners between 3000-4000 rpm. The Barnett spring kit is more like the 'old' fashioned pressure plate and applies even pressure on the plates, the bike comes with a diaphragm spring from the factory, some have used this.

 

[mercurydog47]

I take it then that this modification is not needed after the 2014 model years?

 

[Dogdaze]

Correct, the 2014 and up model is smoother all round, enjoy ::008::

 

[ukyam]

I've been lurking here for 5 years and all I can say is thank you to this forum, I invested in a new Yamaha 2014 clutch basket and it has transformed the bike. I was considering exchanging for a 2014 model purely because of the vibrations but decided to take a punt on an upgraded basket, wow what a difference, it is the bike it always should have been. Gone are those horrible vibes between 2500 and 3500, it is smooth all the way through.

 

[Dogdaze]

I've been lurking here for 5 years and all I can say is thank you to this forum, I invested in a new Yamaha 2014 clutch basket and it has transformed the bike. I was considering exchanging for a 2014 model purely because of the vibrations but decided to take a punt on an upgraded basket, wow what a difference, it is the bike it always should have been. Gone are those horrible vibes between 2500 and 3500, it is smooth all the way through.

::004:: You've lurked for 5 years!! Glad you joined us ::008::

 

[Yzhogman]

Just completed my valve adjustment and did the clutch basket and cct upgrade at the same time. With a service manual and the info shared here it all went quite smoothly. Or at least that's what I had thought. Took it for a quick spin last night (3 degrees C here so just a short test ride). As I was coasting down the driveway and began releasing the clutch it engaged sporadically and lurched so I pulled the clutch in and stopped. I had huge gloves on so thought maybe it was me so decided to try it again. Released clutch slowly and as I did so it engaged sporadically again but not nearly as jerky. I rode a few hundred feet and pulled it in and stopped. Released again and it seemed fine this time. Rode it out to the main road for a quick rip and back home (btw, waaaaay smoother, super happy with that) and the clutch seems to be working fine now.

So I'm wondering if the clutch plates were just temporarily sticking and as the oil circulated and from use they began working properly and I'm now fine OR is there something I should be checking??

 

[78YZ]

I did this today. Your write-up made it simple. I did not see any mention of the nut size. It is 30mm, which was a size I did not have. Now, I do. ;D $15 bucks at Pep Boys.

Thanks, Koinz!

 

[ArkieTenere]

Got my basket put in yesterday and went for 100 mile ride... definately alot smoother....much better ride now! Thanks for the write up and pics.

 

[ediehl]

Much thanks to this forum for putting me on to this issue. I really liked my 2012 S10, but found the vibration, especially under load while climbing a steep grade, not only disturbing but even a little distracting. Now with the Gen 2 basket it is vastly improved; not as smooth as a Goldwing, but then we can't expect that of a twin. Now I need to digest the instructions for my Carbmate synchronizing tool, and have a go at the throttle bodies

 

[frez]

Put the new clutch basket (and plates as I'm up to 48,000 miles) in my bike today, and wow, what a difference, so much smoother and quieter. Really pleased with the result.