Not light duty nor detachable, but Berg, who designs and fabricates Wolfman racks, said there will be racks for the Wolfman Expedition Dry Saddlebags as soon as he can spend a little 'quality time' with a Super Ténéré.johnnail said:
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I am leaning more towards the Pelican cases at this time. I just don't know if I am going with the black or yellow. We will see!!
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We need a rack that will allow us to reuse the Pelican cases we already have on our DL1000's. That would mean manufacturing a rack that would hold 2 cases of the same size. Even if it means we would have some empty space between the case and the bike on the side without the exhaust. Some of us don't like the look of the bike with a big case on one side and a small case on the other either.
We need a rack that will allow us to reuse the Pelican cases we already have on our DL1000's. That would mean manufacturing a rack that would hold 2 cases of the same size. Even if it means we would have some empty space between the case and the bike on the side without the exhaust. Some of us don't like the look of the bike with a big case on one side and a small case on the other either.
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I would second that!!!!Rick said:
You can put whatever size cases you want on the bike. The 37 liter on the left side is to compensate for the silencer which pushes the sidecarrier out a bit. You can run a pair of 37 liter cases or a pair of 45 liter ones iif you like. It will have no discernible performance loss or balance issues.eemsreno said:
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True, but to me, I prefer the symmetry that is attained by having the narrow bag on the side of the exhaust and the wide bag on the other.twistedthrottle said:
Probably what bothers me most is why SW-Motech is NOT recommending their side racks/panniers for two-up riding. So far, I have not seen that warning for Hepco-Becker, GIVI or Yamaha.
Probably the recommendation of some risk assessment lawyer required by SW-Motech's product liability insurance. I doubt there is a technical reason. If you're planning on suing somebody when you have a wreck with an overloaded bike, I'd avoid SW-Motech. Otherwise, I don't think it is significant.colorider said:
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I wish it was that simple - but since I want this bike to be equally comfortable (or better) to my FJR for two-up riding, all I have to go by is what I read on their website. Here it the quote:markjenn said:
"This QUICK-LOCK EVO Side Carrier is designed for 1-Up riding only (riding without a passenger)! Due to the geometry of this motorcycle, the EVO-Carrier and cases must be mounted further forward than usual and may interfere with passenger leg room (positioning the EVO-Carrier further to the rear would compromise the integrity of the motorcycle)."
To me, this does not read like a product liability issue, but instead that the system does not allow adequate leg room for the passenger.
The more and more i read about bags and stuff, the more i am torn about maybe not even going with some. Of course it is a good thing that we have 4 more months of this terror to decide which bags to go with.
Didn't know this. I stand corrected. Good info.colorider said:
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I'm not going to make any decision until I have the bike, but I'm tending more and more towards the Yamaha OEM bags. They may not be the crash kings, but I like the way they mount, how light they are, how they look, how the bike looks with them removed, and how well integrated they are with the bike. They're top-load only and I understand the limitations of this with respect to interference with other luggage, but I've owned a lot of side-loading bags and I've always found the process of loading them from the side awkward, even with liners. The other big drawback is fragile locks, but the FJR's locks are also relatively fragile and I've found you just have to be patient and not force things.HoebSTer said:
We'll see.
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I've used hard and soft bags...pros and cons to each. For my money its going to be the Micatech V2 hard bags
I am ashamed and embarrassed to say this but I am the guy who created the product page and I rushed it. I just went back and did my homework and discovered an error that is critical to this thread. When I created the side carrier page I copied the page for the Yamaha FZ6R & XJ6 side carrier: http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/5150/749/ I changed the text just enough to state that the side carriers were for the S10. I was under pressure to get as many S10 products up on the website as possible and I carelessly did not proof my work.
I cannot find any reference to the pillion leg room issue on the SW-MOTECH site. http://shop.sw-motech.com/cgi-bin/cosmoshop/lshop.cgi?action=showdetail&wkid=129307191324618&ls=en&nc=1293071934-24640&rubnum=brands.yamaha.xt1200z&artnum=KFT.06.145.20000/B&id=15&gesamt_zeilen=Tshowrub--brands.yamaha.xt1200z&typid=25987925 I actually noticed this error last week and have been ashamed to fix it. I didn't want you guys to think I am hiding the truth by just erasing the offending text.
The more I look at the way the cases sit on the bike compared to the Yamaha cases it seems that either one comes just as far forward as the other. I used as a visual reference the pillion seat cushion's front edge. I might even go as far as to say that the TraX boxes sit an inch or two lower than the Yamaha cases and have a beveled top:
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The important thing to remember about the luggage we sell is that it has been designed to distribute the load in the best manner for the most neutral balance and load distribution. Nothing is an accident.
I made some errors and I will fix them. Very sorry for the snafu. I have learned my lesson and will not rush things so important.
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I cannot find any reference to the pillion leg room issue on the SW-MOTECH site. http://shop.sw-motech.com/cgi-bin/cosmoshop/lshop.cgi?action=showdetail&wkid=129307191324618&ls=en&nc=1293071934-24640&rubnum=brands.yamaha.xt1200z&artnum=KFT.06.145.20000/B&id=15&gesamt_zeilen=Tshowrub--brands.yamaha.xt1200z&typid=25987925 I actually noticed this error last week and have been ashamed to fix it. I didn't want you guys to think I am hiding the truth by just erasing the offending text.
The more I look at the way the cases sit on the bike compared to the Yamaha cases it seems that either one comes just as far forward as the other. I used as a visual reference the pillion seat cushion's front edge. I might even go as far as to say that the TraX boxes sit an inch or two lower than the Yamaha cases and have a beveled top:
The important thing to remember about the luggage we sell is that it has been designed to distribute the load in the best manner for the most neutral balance and load distribution. Nothing is an accident.
I made some errors and I will fix them. Very sorry for the snafu. I have learned my lesson and will not rush things so important.
Kevin Nixon
Kevin,
I think you should be commended on bringing this to light and laying out the details of what happened and how its going to be corrected. Speaks highly of both you and your company!
I think you should be commended on bringing this to light and laying out the details of what happened and how its going to be corrected. Speaks highly of both you and your company!
Thanks Grunt58... I wish I hadn't made the error. I've lost some sleep over this. If it doesn't come up - Happy Holidays to all of you guys.Grunt58 said:
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I will ask TwistedThrottle this question as well!!!! DO your adapter brackets for the Pelican cases fit the Pelican 1430 top load box, or the 1450 case? I like these two cases for a bike and want someone to make a bracket for them to fit either a GIVI mount or something else.
I will ask TwistedThrottle this question as well!!!! DO your adapter brackets for the Pelican cases fit the Pelican 1430 top load box, or the 1450 case? I like these two cases for a bike and want someone to make a bracket for them to fit either a GIVI mount or something else.
Ah which brand of hard bags to buy? I am in the same throes of doubt. I like the thought of one keys opens all locks and as mentioned previously, the integration of the OEM looks better to me than the asymmetrical stance of the aftermarket offerings. RE: fiddly locks, my ST1300 has locks like that. I was most surprised by that from Honda. The ignition lock failed completely while we were on the way to STAR in 06. Left me stranded for two days waiting for a new lock set.
Since I commute, I need hard locking bags. One more thing, I was told by several folks who work on locks that you should not use graphite anymore nor a wet lube. You want a lube that dries completely so it does not accumulate grit in the tumblers.
Since I commute, I need hard locking bags. One more thing, I was told by several folks who work on locks that you should not use graphite anymore nor a wet lube. You want a lube that dries completely so it does not accumulate grit in the tumblers.
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Don't beat yourself up Kev. These things happen. No one diedtwistedthrottle said:
Good point about the Trax boxes sitting lower. I have joked in the past about the OEM's pannier height being just close enough to be an issue when filtering in traffic. Not kidding, they really are that close that they clip mirrors. Granted I do go through small gaps and at speeds way too fast for my own good but hey ..... I'm a biker and I do this kinda nonsense ;D
Keep up the good work .... it's appreciated.
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Kevin,
Thanks so much for setting this straight as it has been bugging me since I first read the disclaimer. I had noted my concern on the "apparent" SW-Motech issue in several threads. I have used their racks in the past and have had no issue with them - quality product - as you are a quality vendor!!! Thanks!!!
I had been leaning toward the Givi racks, but now need to re-compare them to the SW-Motech (and of course, Hepco Becker). I'm still partial to the Givi Trekkers,
Thanks again!!!
Rod
Thanks so much for setting this straight as it has been bugging me since I first read the disclaimer. I had noted my concern on the "apparent" SW-Motech issue in several threads. I have used their racks in the past and have had no issue with them - quality product - as you are a quality vendor!!! Thanks!!!
I had been leaning toward the Givi racks, but now need to re-compare them to the SW-Motech (and of course, Hepco Becker). I'm still partial to the Givi Trekkers,
Thanks again!!!
Rod
Kevin, Any thoughts from SW Motech on building a set of symmetrical racks for the S10? My DL 1000 has the twin silencers so the asymmetrical racks are something new to me. Granted you would have a gap between the inside of the right case and the bike, but this "gap", could be utilized by attaching a flat Pelican box, tool tube, flat spare gas cell or bottle(s), etc.
This would fill in the gap yet still allows for a more symmetrical look from the rear. When so mounted, a pelican case would be essentially "secured", from theft or unauthorized access. Of course the side case would have to be removed to access the Pelican, but the contents of the Pelican would be for occasional access items like tools, Rolex watches, Hope diamonds, Halloween masks, etc. Same would apply for a tool tube, tire plugger, spare fuel, etc.
Twisted Throttle could come up with some nice bolt on options (bottle straps, etc.), to "up sell", various cases, too!
This would fill in the gap yet still allows for a more symmetrical look from the rear. When so mounted, a pelican case would be essentially "secured", from theft or unauthorized access. Of course the side case would have to be removed to access the Pelican, but the contents of the Pelican would be for occasional access items like tools, Rolex watches, Hope diamonds, Halloween masks, etc. Same would apply for a tool tube, tire plugger, spare fuel, etc.
Twisted Throttle could come up with some nice bolt on options (bottle straps, etc.), to "up sell", various cases, too!