A survey: Issue count to send to yamaha

[Big Blu]

Greg, I admire your effort but you'll be putting any new information on the table.
Yamaha, and all other major manufactures, collect data on warranty work, repair work, and part sales, then perform trend analysis. They know way more the we do. ::021::

It's for this reason I encourage folks to take there bike to the dealer for repair. A bitch list is ........ well, just that.

Regards, Paul

 

[greg the pole]

I hear what you're saying Paul.

I fixed all my issues, before they became problematic.
I don't have a dealer to take my bike to, mostly because of my own choice.

Quite a few of these issues never see the light of day as far as Yamaha is concerned, as most members fixed it themselves.

I'm interested to see however how many guys had the same issues as me for example, if for nothing else but curiosity.

 

[greg the pole]

Not sure if its a inner or outer seal it pukes on occasion just keep checking the oil level Havnt got it repaired yet Waiting for the snow to fly than they can repair it. As far as dealer being concerned about assembly mistakes I did let them know but they did not seem to give two You know what Keep getting offers for service stuff NO WAY!! when I picked the bike up took the time to pick the service managers mind about the ST got a bunch of smoke blown up my ... So my faith is lost in the service dept. leak started at 11K As far as the plug Greg mentioned not sure of the location of it Will look closer after work Thx

Hi Paul, sorry to hear the bad experience.

I'm my own service department. Bought the bike from the states, saved a bunch, and never had any intentions of bringing it to any of the local guys, as most of them don't know the 1st thing about the tenere, and are not adept enough to make a good pot of coffee.

Plug is on the right side of the swing arm, towards the front. It's held in with god's good grace only.

 

[Paul466]

Yeah sad but true good service tech that take pride in their work are hard to find! Moved to denver 2 years ago so Im not oriented as far as good shops around here if any. anyways good luck with the list for the Yamaha hope something comes from it. Trzymaj Sie Grzesiek!

 

[greg the pole]

Yeah sad but true good service tech that take pride in their work are hard to find! Moved to denver 2 years ago so Im not oriented as far as good shops around here if any. anyways good luck with the list for the Yamaha hope something comes from it. Trzymaj Sie Grzesiek!

dzieki Pawel,

In the past I approached things with caution. But in the last 10 years I started doing all my own work. The forum has been a huge help.
By simply jumping in, reading the literature, I get around things well enough.

If you're in the area nov 22nd, drop by for the wrench and belch at my place

 

[Kidder]

Loose rear spokes. In fact, I was the first one to post regarding the loose rear spokes. When I found the issue, the nipple was gone and the spoke was bent severely. I never found damage on the swingarm so I got lucky. When I contacted the dealer, I was told it was a maintenance issue and I had to buy a set.

 

[snakebitten]

Yeah sad but true good service tech that take pride in their work are hard to find! Moved to denver 2 years ago so Im not oriented as far as good shops around here if any. anyways good luck with the list for the Yamaha hope something comes from it. Trzymaj Sie Grzesiek!

The dealer in Montrose Colorado took very good care of all of us Tenere crashing meatheads this last summer. Even fixed an ABS issue that one of our Canadian brothers couldn't get fixed at his local dealer. I'd trust them with mine.

 

[Travex]

A: Headlight harness issues. (Burnt connectors, and or burnt ground/low beam wire). Forum members affected: Greg the pole, Red Cat, Brick, K woo, Creggur, Travex

B: Final drive seals (either inner seals, or shaft seals): Greg the pole, Terrysig, Dcstrom, Paul466

C: Loose Spokes (either front or back wheels): Greg the pole, Jimmy z, Dcstrom, Kidder

D: Loose steering stem nut: Greg the pole, Missing link, Jit600cc, Scud Runner, dirt dad, dirt mom, Dcstrom

E: Vibration issue: Missing link, Yamaguy55

F: No start: Travex

G: Driveshaft guard: Travex

 

[tpak]

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this is looking at parts failures. What was the hard start diagnosed down to?

Appears to be flooding and WOT does not always cure. Sometimes FI plug removal cures. Seems to happen often enough that if you have someones attention at Yamaha then we ought to bring it up. Too many instances for it to be pure operator error.

 

[greg the pole]

elaborate on the no start, and the shaft guard

 

[Travex]

elaborate on the no start, and the shaft guard

No Start: As has been widely covered on this site the no-start/hard start issue found my bike not starting for 4 days. I had read a post (cannot recall where and didn't save it) that detailed opening the tank, jostling the bike, then closing the tank and attempt starting. In my case, just as in the post I read it started right up. After 4 days of charging and cranking with various throttle positions this was a relief. From reading through the rather extensive thread (http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=2149.0) on this topic, it seems that avoiding running the engine for short periods and not allowing it to reach optimal riding temperature is the (a) cause. In my case it was starting the bike to give it a quick warming for an oil change. First and last time I'll do that. I've always done oil after I ride.
Apologies if this item is in any way a derail.

Driveshaft Guard: This component makes the assumption that the rider will always be wearing boots with pants tucked in or cinched at the ankle. Although I was aware of the potential for pants catching on it, I still failed to get my foot down in a slow speed condition. My fault of course... But for not having circumvented the poor design of the part. AltRider replacement part addresses the issue properly.

 

[Rasher]

Hard start must be by far the most common "issue" at about 45% of owners, with about 25% experiencing it more than once - see poll here:

http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=6796.msg153828#msg153828

It would also seem when tried WOT gets it going about 80% of the time, and if not pulling the FI fuse almost certainly will fix it, so there is a workaround and the "fault" does not really have any cost apart from inconvenience (still preferable to the myriad of expensive faults that affect most GS' models)

More info here:

http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=2149.0

 

[greg the pole]

understood.

I'm not sure if the above amounts to part failure though. It's a glitch in the efi system that if the bike does not come up to full operating temp, and gets shut down, this will happen.

 

[Rasher]

I'm not sure if the above amounts to part failure though. It's a glitch in the efi system that if the bike does not come up to full operating temp, and gets shut down, this will happen.

Not a parts failure, but it does not only happen under the circumstances you mention, mine has done this when HOT, I came home, turned off the ignition for about 2 minutes and then realised I needed to do something else, with a hot engine I had the problem and even at WOT it was not wanting to start - it may have done eventually but I did not want to risk a flat battery so pulled the FI fuse.

I think others have had issues when the bike has been stood for a while, read through the topics to avoid me repeating my experiences and this turning into another hard start thread, but it is not consistent, it is possible to cycle the ignition and not have the issue, it affects some of the people some of the time and there may be some common contributing factors, but whatever way you look at it I have had more hard starts on this bike than all my others over the last ten plus years, the issue is real.

 

[Ramseybella]

seriously?

I though mine was bad when it let go after 35 thousand km.
I never noticed the plug missing till then. I ordered and installed a new one since then. Grip glue.

What plug are we talking about, the rear differential drain plug or something new I should be watching for?
Just me but I feel the head light wiring harness should be a recall, sounds like a waiting time bomb..

 

[tpak]

Not a parts failure, but it does not only happen under the circumstances you mention, mine has done this when HOT, I came home, turned off the ignition for about 2 minutes and then realised I needed to do something else, with a hot engine I had the problem and even at WOT it was not wanting to start - it may have done eventually but I did not want to risk a flat battery so pulled the FI fuse.

I think others have had issues when the bike has been stood for a while, read through the topics to avoid me repeating my experiences and this turning into another hard start thread, but it is not consistent, it is possible to cycle the ignition and not have the issue, it affects some of the people some of the time and there may be some common contributing factors, but whatever way you look at it I have had more hard starts on this bike than all my others over the last ten plus years, the issue is real.

+1

this is beaten to death in other threads - it either happens to your bike or doesn't - my expereince is more like Rashers than others. IMHO it is some sort of fail in the FI which is a part

if you have an avenue into mama yama you should report it along with your other findings

 

[greg the pole]

This is a survey of major problems.

Only post if you actually experienced the failures below on your mc.
please quote the thread by modifying the selections below with your name. please keep comments to a minimum. This is a thread that could technically be sent to Yamaha for possible upgrades/recalls that they never started.
If there are other problems that should be added, add away, below.
I'll start.

A: Headlight harness issues. (Burnt connectors, and or burnt ground/low beam wire). Forum members affected: Greg the pole, Red Cat, Brick, K woo, Creggur

B: Final drive seals (either inner seals, or shaft seals): Greg the pole, Terrysig, Dcstrom, Paul466

C: Loose Spokes (either front or back wheels): Greg the pole, Jimmy z, Dcstrom, Kidder

D: Loose steering stem nut: Greg the pole, Missing link, Jit600cc, Scud Runner, dirt dad, dirt mom, Dcstrom

E: Vibration issue: Missing link, Yamaguy55

F: Hard Start: Tpak, Travex

 

[Dirt_Dad]

Well if we're adding hard starts you can put me down for three of those between the two bikes.

At the rate this is growing I suspect Yamaha is not going to be all that impressed with the number of people reporting an issue in this thread.

 

[pedroecompanhia]

Never had a no start nor a hard start. 19000kms without any of this issues you guys are talking about ::012:: . Have i been lucky? Or is it portuguese nice weather? ::001::

 

[autoteach]

Hard start is not an issue. User error. Heaven forbid you owned a carbureted bike ever, let alone a snowmobile. And to those that say "its FI, it should be able to figure it out", you apparent;y haven't read my post on this or don't care to believe in facts. Hard Start does not exist. The inability to know when to give the bike throttle does, however, persist.