wind screen buffeting

[bloke]

Hmmmmm, I solved mine with the +5 inch givi screen for $135....

http://www.amotostuff.com/super_tenere_body_wind/D447ST.html

i tried that first and it wasn't quite up to the job then i got the parabellum 24" ::008::

 

[bonzer2u]

i tried that first and it wasn't quite up to the job then i got the parabellum 24" ::008::

I hover 5'9" above true altitude which is likely why the givi worked out for me.....

 

[bloke]

I hover 5'9" above true altitude which is likely why the givi worked out for me.....

yep, im 6"1 and im wide ::024::

 

[Kevhunts]

I've gone the opposite direction - a smaller screen.

I ran a trial with just a bit of cardboard as high as the supports for the screen and found the buffeting had disappeared.

As a result I have mothballed the stock screen and bent up a checkerplate screen that is half an inch higher than the supports.

The pics below show the OEM screws through the checkerplate into the stock rubber wellnuts on the supports.

Looks like you've got the makings for a "coat of arms" ::022::

 

[markjenn]

If all you're in interested in is smooth air, then the less screen the better. Some even take the screen off all-together. It's finding that elusive compromise between decent protection and acceptable smoothness for your particular build and helmet that makes this a slipperly subject. But if you don't care about protection, it's easy to get smooth - just chop the stock one way, way down.

When I had a Madstadt on my Strom, I fiddled with the adjustments quite a bit and I could get it very smooth, but only in a position that had very compromised protection. When I had it in a position where it offered the same protection as stock, it had the same amount of buffeting as stock. I ended up fitting a shorty screen without the adjustable bracket.

On the S10, I'm VERY happy with the tall Yammy screen in the lowest position. It's not dead smooth, but its pretty good and the protection is excellent. But YMMV certainly is applicable - this is not a one-size-fits-all issue.

- Mark

 

[norcal rider]

Thats good to hear. I hope the taller Yamaha screen does the trick for me as well.
I'm not looking for perfect but the buffiting i'm getting with the stock setup, even with the Touratech bracket, is unacceptable. I've had naked bikes, sport bikes and sport touring bikes and all had less buffeting at my head than this.

 

[markjenn]

I'm not looking for perfect but the buffiting i'm getting with the stock setup, even with the Touratech bracket, is unacceptable. I've had naked bikes, sport bikes and sport touring bikes and all had less buffeting at my head than this.

Well, not to browbeat you, but naked bikes and sportbikes, by their nature, have essentially zero buffetting issues because they have essentially no protection above one's chest. Sport-touring bikes (like the FJR) have a lot more bodywork, put the windshield close to the rider, and have much wider shields.

Just trying to make sure you have reasonable expectations. Bikes like our S10, Strom, R1200GS, etc. are VERY challenging from a wind management standpoint, much more challenging than other bike types. They often have to be finessed into an acceptable compromise, often with a lot of trial and error.

- Mark

 

[Tremor38]

Thats good to hear. I hope the taller Yamaha screen does the trick for me as well.
I'm not looking for perfect but the buffiting i'm getting with the stock setup, even with the Touratech bracket, is unacceptable. I've had naked bikes, sport bikes and sport touring bikes and all had less buffeting at my head than this.

I'm not sure why anybody bothers with the tall Yamaha screen when there are screeens from CalSci And Parabellum that do a much better job for a similar price. The tall, OEM screen makes so little difference compared to the screens I've just mentioned. Why throw your hard-earned cash at what is little more than a gimmick in comparison?

 

[markjenn]

I'm not sure why anybody bothers with the tall Yamaha screen when there are screeens from CalSci And Parabellum that do a much better job for a similar price. The tall, OEM screen makes so little difference compared to the screens I've just mentioned. Why throw your hard-earned cash at what is little more than a gimmick in comparison?

I haven't used the screens you've mentioned, but I don't think the characterization that the tall OEM screen "makes so little difference" and "is a gimmick" doesn't stand the common sense test. Have you compared the two side-by-side? The tall scren is a lot taller and a lot wider than the stock screen. And screens are always a compromise and bigger isn't always better. What you're looking for is the Goldilocks screen (not too big, not too small, just right) and for many, the tall OEM may be it. I think it is for me. It also looks damn good.

- Mark

 

[RMac]

I haven't used the screens you've mentioned, but I don't think the characterization that the tall OEM screen "makes so little difference" and "is a gimmick" doesn't stand the common sense test. Have you compared the two side-by-side? The tall scren is a lot taller and a lot wider than the stock screen. And screens are always a compromise and bigger isn't always better. What you're looking for is the Goldilocks screen (not too big, not too small, just right) and for many, the tall OEM may be it. I think it is for me. It also looks damn good.

- Mark

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The tall OEM screen works very well for me. Well enough so that I know that I will not be investing in any adjustable mount or any other solution. I rate the reduction in buffeting compared to stock as 70% to 95% depending on circumstances. I think the tall OEM can work for riders in a given height range. I am 5'10". Also it did not work well when mounted in highest possible position. Any other of the lower positions gave about the same improved result.

 

[GoNotShow]

Here's my latest update...

Rode again this weekend with the Touratech bracket, but this time wore my Shoei X-11 helmet instead of the Hornet DS. The helmet buffeting was much less in all positions, but with the adjustable bracket in the low position it was significantly better than when wearing the Hornet DS helmet. Probably not a surprise since the bracket in the low position directs the air right at the peak of the DS helmet and causes buffeting, whereas the X-11 is happy to be in the high speed air flow.

I really like wearing the Hornet DS when I'm going to be riding any significant amount of dirt, but it doesn't seem to work very well at highway speeds with the stock screen+Touratech bracket. Will definitely be wearing my X-11 when dirt is not involved. I'm also contemplating getting a CalSci screen which may be tall and wide enough to keep the Hornet DS out of the turbulent air flow. We'll see...

 

[norcal rider]

OK So i'm sure there may be a better fix out there for different riders but the taller Yamaha screen did the trick for me and was cheaper than the others i've seen out there. With some adjustments I now have the air flow a bit lower than it was with the stock screen but the air flow is smooth with almost no buffeting. The air stream is now just above eye level rather than just at the top of my head but like I said the air flow off this screen is much much smoother. May be just the shape, less flip at the top maybe, but it works and allows for good air flow on a hot day. ::008::

 

[Tremor38]

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The tall OEM screen works very well for me. Well enough so that I know that I will not be investing in any adjustable mount or any other solution. I rate the reduction in buffeting compared to stock as 70% to 95% depending on circumstances. I think the tall OEM can work for riders in a given height range. I am 5'10". Also it did not work well when mounted in highest possible position. Any other of the lower positions gave about the same improved result.

I geuss what I was basing my judgement upon was when Wasp was trying various sceens, but I think he might be a bit taller than guys who are reporting good results with the OEM tall screen. There was night and day difference between the CalSci and OEM tall from his perspective, but, again, he's a big dude.

 

[toompine]

CAlSci. Done. ::018::

Seriously best screen I have every run behind. Great protection, no buffeting. Don 't know the others, I just know a great solution when I get it.

 

[jajpko]

The best I had, was the Wasp adjuster and the Parabellum shield. The shield is super nice on the workmanship.

 

[colorider]

The best I had, was the Wasp adjuster and the Parabellum shield. The shield is super nice on the workmanship.

How much better than the Wasp bracket with the OEM screen?

Thanks,
Rod

 

[jajpko]

How much better than the Wasp bracket with the OEM screen?

Thanks,
Rod

The difference was like night and day. No kidding. The dead air space and no buffeting was just what I was looking for.
The Parabellum did what the stock shield and the Calsi, could not do. Also with Greg's bracket I could rotate the shield to pick up air in my face if I wanted. I think any bracket will do that.

 

[colorider]

The difference was like night and day. No kidding. The dead air space and no buffeting was just what I was looking for.
The Parabellum did what the stock shield and the Calsi, could not do. Also with Greg's bracket I could rotate the shield to pick up air in my face if I wanted. I think any bracket will do that.

That's good feedback. I'm reasonably happy with the OEM screen on the Wasp bracket, but would still like a bit more protection in the cooler weather.

Thanks!

 

[bloke]

i just got a taller 26" Parabellum screen today and life is good ::008::

(except for my new seat lol)

 

[jajpko]

i just got a taller 26" Parabellum screen today and life is good ::008::

(except for my new seat lol)

A little hijack.. lol

What do you plan on doing about the seat? It does look like a hump in the seat where you would sit.
Hope it works out for you.