Will you take the vaccine
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RIVA
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And yet we abhor the Chinese lockdown put in place due to covid. We cannot have it everyway.
AusTexS10
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It may (or may not) be a result of the spread of the omicron variance where people that had the initial vaccinations and maybe the first two boosters, but not the latest, thought it was "safe" to freely mingle, oblivious to the evolving threat. It's amazing the amount of data we have and what spins are put on it. For example, here is a graph from data provided by CDC for last March:
It's hard to believe there was such a swing to August from March, other than the omicron being reportedly worse than the earlier variances and the number of people who have continued to not get the latest or ANY vaccinations. There are lots of opinions and data out there, but more importantly there are people getting sick and dying in spite of our best efforts to prevent that. Being well into that last group, I'm personally thankful for vaccines and proud to be on the bottom line.
China is way behind alot of Countries regarding many aspects of how you can counter the spread and its effects. It is a Police State. I feel for the People who live there. This may well be counter productive for their " leader " which can only be a good thing for the People and the rest of the World.
jbrown
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Those two charts seem to show completely different results. Both are supposed to come from the CDC. I can't help but think at least one of them is false or misleading in some way.
Eville Rich
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If you are referring to the pie charts, it makes sense to me. In Sept 2021 there were many more unvaxxed,l than now, so deaths would weigh toward the unvaxxed. In 2022, there are more vaxxed, plus you have all the people that died no longer eligible for death, so a smaller pool of high-risk. That said, seeing the total numbers for each chart would be helpful - the percentages are just a piece of the puzzle, err pie.
Eville Rich
Interesting data both ways. My take: If I'm a healthy person under the age of 65, NO covid shot for me. If I had children I sure wouldn't have them get the shot.
One thing I am glad of: The motorcycle adventures I took during the past few years.
One thing I am glad of: The motorcycle adventures I took during the past few years.
Thing is if we took this same view of risk asessment when we had to have an opperation which required an anastecic what would the Doctors say ?. No Doctor would guarantee that you would even recover from the anastetic let alone the operation. They would tell you there are risks so you need to sign this piece of paper agreeing to have the procedure done. This is routine in Medicene. I understand people being wary but i do question what media people are getting these negative views from because when i track back where it is coming from there is a theme to it. From what i see its politically driven not science driven which for me questions its validity. We can always go back to " The Old Days " if people want to but consider this. Measles, rubella, mumps, diphtheria and polio have all been eliminated in the U.S., largely due to the introduction of vaccination programs in the United States in the 1970s.
But again i respect peoples right to chose.
But again i respect peoples right to chose.
The pie chart shows percentages. Not raw numbers. There might not be a difference. But there's too much difference in daily life from '21 to '22 to be able to take it at face value. There's enough information online to prove either side's conclusion(s). Each person, for or against vaccinations, rolls the dice when they make their decision. And each hopes that their number doesn't come up.
And in the big scheme of things, your decision only controls the time you have left. 'Cuz nobody gets out alive.
And in the big scheme of things, your decision only controls the time you have left. 'Cuz nobody gets out alive.
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WJBertrand
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Got a link? I frankly don't believe this came from the CDC. Fake News as they say.
WJBertrand
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Social responsibility is an important factor here that I agree with. People are too selfish these days and they can find anything they want on the internet to justify their opinion. Just look at the flat earthers!
Wait . . . . what? The Earth isn't flat?
It is if your in Florida.
It is a retirement State so makes sense.
Yup, they keep the bike from dying, but not breaking down.
I just put gas in the S10 to stop it dying.
Right there on the cdc website.
The data doesn't support the vaccine theory. But keep on seeing those invisible clothes.
If your 65 and under in good physical condition, why mess around with an experimental shot. Especially one that the data shows loses its effectiveness in less than 90 days?
WJBertrand
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Thanks. This data tends to contradict the pie charts posted earlier, and supports the effectiveness of the vaccines. Don't confuse the two shades of green. This data is different as shows incidences of infection, not deaths, so is not supportive or even comparable to the bogus pie charts. Only someone who does not understand the data would use this information to support the prior false information and hope the person(s) the data is presented to is equally ignorant. Someone wishing to promote a conspiracy theory created or adulterated those pie charts.
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