TPMS??????????

trasbeck · Oct 25, 2013

Anyone using an aftermarket tire pressure monitor? One thing I really liked on my Concours. I see Orange and Dolan come up in Google. Which sensors, in the wheel or on the valve stem?

hojo in sc · Oct 25, 2013

I've been using the Doran system for a good many years now and love it. Just make sure you use a metal valve stem, the rubber ones are not strong enough if you mount the sensor on the outside of the rim.

Tippo · Oct 25, 2013

I bought the Tire Guard system from Amazon. ($160) It does not work properly. Do not buy.

Jeff

TreeMuncher · Oct 25, 2013

I'm working on my second year with the Orange TPMS. Love it!

The GF and I won this at NatSTOC 2012. Because I get to ride 12 months out of the year, I put it on my bike instead of hers. Valve stem type with 3 yr battery life. The instructions claimed not to use it with liquid sealants but I have been using sealant on the rear tire only and so far, no problems encountered. Still works fine.

TPMS will let you know how much pressure rise you get in your tires as they warm up. No need for an air gauge. Now I wish I had one in all of my vehicles, especially the semi. Saves a lot of time.

Checkswrecks · Oct 25, 2013

Have you checked the previous 14 threads on the subject by putting TPMS into the search box?
Not trying to be cheeky and I am a TPMS fan. But there has been extensive discussion about the various options.

Champagne InHand · Sep 3, 2019

It’s all over, and there are a lot of newer systems out there. I’ve been trying to sift through searching but everything seems so outdated. A YouTube review guy out of Montreal recommends a brand I can’t seem to locate as of yet. He also has plenty of good videos. He rides ADV bikes, but mostly a GS. Not a problem for me though.

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Cycledude · Sep 3, 2019

Seems to be way to many TPMS failures, so far I haven’t bought any.

RonH · Sep 3, 2019

TPMS, AIR BAG, ABS, Three things that should have been shot down the toilet before government safetycrat laws invaded. These 3 things account for nearly every problem I see on friends/family vehicals, and none can ever be fixed as you can have the best scanner in the world and it says, right front sensor bad, left airbag module out of alignment, left front tire pressure, no reading. Doesn't matter, as always all are reading perfect yet somehow the vehical thinks something wrong. I wish I could go back to 1960 and never see this again. I would never add this "feature". If it comes factory installed, bad enough.

Champagne InHand · Sep 3, 2019

I don’t mind tpms, but don’t find it an absolute necessity. If you check your tires before each ride and again at fuel stops.

But I don’t always do it. I think it’s much more handy than a what gear am I in? display that seems to be a common add on to many bikes. I also think it needs to be treated as a base from which you get to know your sensors. I bought one for $30. Not a big loss when it fails.

As for airbags like all the emissions controls and such. Yes it adds weight, drives up prices and are prone to failure. That being said I’ve worked too many trauma shifts where I have seen the miracles of modern safety mandates. Yes, we might be screwing up the cost rises in cars, boats, cycles and insurance costs. We might be defeating the Darwin effect, but to me thinking they should never have been developed or required is akin to having no requirement for wearing seatbelts. I’m old enough to remember when hardly anybody wire seatbelts, and many kids were not in proper child seats.

Still I am glad they are available. Just like AC isn’t required in homes or cars, but it sure makes most driving comfortable, much like heated seats, defrosters and oil/coolant warmers, when you live in long nasty Winters.

There are tons of continuing posts on accessory lighting, theft protection, panniers, protective clothing, protective gear and of course helmets.

There is a lot that has changed in the industry as I’m just coming back to it after an 8 year break.

My last bike was a MY 2008. Not a lot came with ABS, Traction Control or ES systems.

I have a huge hate/love relationship with my Jeep’s CANBUS, but I’m guessing the electronics are here to stay. Sure I like analog tachometers over digital electronic, but I’m softening on the Speedo and other dash monitors. I’m just fine with LCD, but it looks as if TFTs are here to stay.

Helmets with wireless communication, audio and it looks as if heads-up displays are coming.

Poor Gen Z kids just won’t be able to afford to buy anything new, and the servicing/replacement as well as distracted driving surely will increase unless the younger kids can multitask like Apache Lowbow pilots while riding.

So while we can be happy without, it makes sense to update as you shouldn’t have to pay $300+ for an often faulty tech piece when there are serviceable options under $50. Same with tool kits in the great demise of the great tool makers that have or are going under because of cheap and adequate tool availability from the net. Hopefully people keep learning how to work on all aspects of their newer bikes and upload video to free video platforms. With labor a bike shops running close to $100/hour, I’ll be refreshing on doing my own tire replacement, wheel balancing and alignments. Hopefully the new generation can get into all the digits and electronic mods and repairs and shares.

I’m glad Anthony and friends have kept hacking ECUs as well as commenting on the improvements made by Yamaha.

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ballisticexchris · Sep 4, 2019

Checkswrecks said:
Have you checked the previous 14 threads on the subject by putting TPMS into the search box?
Not trying to be cheeky and I am a TPMS fan. But there has been very little discussion about the various options. I'm so happy you have decided to start another TPMS thread and run this subject into the ground.

I did a search and only came up with 14 threads as well. IMHO, there is just not enough info on TPMS systems. It's pretty sad actually.

richarddacat · Sep 4, 2019

I’m been using Garmin’s with their GPS app for several years now.
I have had some issues and have had the sensors replaced under warranty once. Currently have the rear sensor acting up but sometimes it’s just the battery. Jury’s still out.

I like having the app in the GPS and would rather not have to mount a separate display so I’ve stuck with them but I may also be shopping.

I think they could be a life saver provided you get a low psi warning like Garmin does, these are the only ones I have experience with.

spam16v · Sep 4, 2019

$40 eBay special working great so far.

WJBertrand · Sep 4, 2019

Champagne InHand said:
I don’t mind tpms, but don’t find it an absolute necessity. If you check your tires before each ride and again at fuel stops.

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One thing a TPMS can do that no amount of OCD checking can address is a puncture sustained while already underway. That early warning in my experience is a big safety advantage allowing you to get to a safe location before the tire has lost all of its air.

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regder · Sep 4, 2019

WJBertrand said:
One thing a TPMS can do that no amount of OCD checking can address is a puncture sustained while already underway. That early warning in my experience is a big safety advantage allowing you to get to a safe location before the tire has lost all of its air.

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Agreed! Had a massive butt pucker moment on my old V-Strom at 75mph. A previously unknown screw in my rear tire made a run for it, dropping tire pressure to 0 very quickly, resulting in a nice wobble.

Very happy so far with my Garmin Zumo/TPMS setup. Outside of the odd disconnect, and a set of batteries, no problems in 15k miles.

WJBertrand · Sep 5, 2019

I've had a couple of saves with the TPMS I installed on my old ST1300, none so far on the Super Tenere. Once when leaving work I noticed the alert just as I was leaving the parking lot. The freeway was only a block away and without that warning I would have entered the freeway and learned of the problem in a more dramatic way I'm sure. The other time was on my way from Ventura to San Diego when somewhere around Garden Grove on 405 I noticed the TPMS warning. I was moving at 70-75 MPH in the far left carpool lane with 4-5 lanes of heavy traffic between me and the right shoulder. I was able to make it all the way over, off the freeway and find my way to service station with a working air hose. I do carry a small pump too though. Plugging a tire in a service station parking lot beats doing so on the shoulder of a freeway with heavy fast moving traffic - or worse.

In neither case did the bike signal me with any instability before I noticed the TPMS alert.

Champagne InHand · Sep 5, 2019

Great information guys. Hopefully mods might merge the 13 separate threads as I found most so outdated.

Glad to here about the Garmin. I only invested in the inexpensive version that was maybe $30 more in other renditions, but clearly the same manufacturer as Amazon compiled their ratings, not to mention they look the same. 3 different unbranded, but sold as 15-20 or so generic named items.

I probably won’t mount the display as it chirps through your Bluetooth, though that might invite another reason for error. When I get comfortable with the systems and can round up funding to buy a separate GPS for trips, I will look towards Garmin.

Thanks for posting your comments about getting off the 405, yikes. I used to live in the OC.

I bought a tire repair kit that comes with plug gear as well as CO2 in case you don’t have a station with working air. Big problem anywhere with adverse cold. Way too many stations let their compressors wear out in Winter than just hang an out of order sign on them and let the next manager deal with fixing them and that’s after it’s consumed tens of dollars in quarters that nobody thought worth going inside for a refund.

I need to master plugs and patches again. I don’t want to be off on a trail so far from cellular service that I need to camp for more than a day trying to get a flat repaired, or worse crash because of unexpected screw that dropped onto a dirt or gravel trail.

I will post my set up when it arrives and us installed, with updates as I get metal stems and such.

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richarddacat · Oct 23, 2019

richarddacat said:
I’m been using Garmin’s with their GPS app for several years now.
I have had some issues and have had the sensors replaced under warranty once. Currently have the rear sensor acting up but sometimes it’s just the battery. Jury’s still out.

I like having the app in the GPS and would rather not have to mount a separate display so I’ve stuck with them but I may also be shopping.

I think they could be a life saver provided you get a low psi warning like Garmin does, these are the only ones I have experience with.

OK, I’m shopping.
My faulty rear sensor is intermitting once it finally recognizes the battery.

Contacted Garmin and for $50 bucks I could do an exchange. During this chat I decided to give my information and go ahead and do the swap. Granted I didn’t look at what is on the market but now I will be looking.

The rep at Garmin said he would email everything to make the transaction, I haven’t received any email over the past 5days so I’ll look elsewhere.

Any recommendations are appreciated meanwhile I’ll be reading the above list of posts.

BTW, with this sensor removed and ready to ship I got a flat. A warning of low psi would have been nice while flying down the interstate at 80mph.

JJTJ2 · Jan 1, 2020

I have the FOBO2 system: https://www.amazon.com/FOBO-Pressure-Monitoring-Systems-Black/dp/B07Q21RNNB/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1MO56ZGB1UC8G&keywords=fobo+bike+2+tire+pressure+monitoring+systems+black&qid=1577928177&sprefix=fobo,aps,404&sr=8-1
It links to your phone by Bluetooth and will give audible alarms anytime the pressure is too high or too low based on the settings you select.

richarddacat · Jan 2, 2020

Follow up on my Garmin issue. Attempted another exchange but then found one sensor on EBay that was cheaper so I got it.

If the batteries are hot and it doesn’t loose it’s Bluetooth sync it works pretty good but when they die again I’ll purchased something else. Same will go with the GPS. Garmin is all that I’ve used and I’m tired of their problems.

Nikolajsen · Jan 3, 2020

I had to get mine exchanged 3 times on warranty, before I got 2 that was not "eating" up the batteries.
But now no problem whole 2019 season, and still power on batteries.
Garmin Denmark says they don't know about any issues worldwide about this, but might not be true ;-)

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