Super Tenere Cam Chain Tensioner Failure

[Karson]

Yes, I had mine replaced using the YES Warranty. The dealer had no problem replacing it. They called Yamaha and they said, "if he has warrantly, replace it". No issues.

That's cool - the fact that the new part number is listed on the fiche as a new part for 12-13 models probably helps the cause.

 

[Koinz]

Ya, I did record a video of the racket for the dealer to hear when I stopped by so he could hear the noise. After the first start of the day, it didn't rattle on startup for the most part. Once he heard it, he agreed there was an issue.

 

[fredz43]

Ya, I did record a video of the racket for the dealer to hear when I stopped by so he could hear the noise. After the first start of the day, it didn't rattle on startup for the most part. Once he heard it, he agreed there was an issue.

How many miles did you have on it at the time?

Thanks.

 

[avc8130]

Definitely more pronounced than the video I posted earlier. Wonder if it lasts longer now that all the oil has drained back overnight...

Has anyone inquired with their dealer on using Y.E.S. on this as a preventative measure rather than after the fact?

It usually does make a lot of noise in the morning. Sure enough, I had the video running and started the bike this morning after 14 hours of sitting. SILENCE. Figures. LOL

I don't have YES. The parts are $140. Still ahead of the $400 the warranty would have cost me...and NO down time with the bike at the dealer.

ac

 

[Koinz]

How many miles did you have on it at the time?

Thanks.

I think it was around 22K. i'm around 28k now.

 

[Toxic Mark]

I'm not that tech saavy. I've changed oil and oil filters, tires and clutch plates, but that's about it. How difficult is it to change the CCT? Anyone have pics?

 

[avc8130]

I'm not that tech saavy. I've changed oil and oil filters, tires and clutch plates, but that's about it. How difficult is it to change the CCT? Anyone have pics?

If you've done what you claim, you can handle the cam chain tensioner. Grab the service manual and have a look.

Pretty much raise the gas tank and remove the old tensioner. Install the new one. You'll have to pull the clutch cover to smack the cam chain with a screw driver to release the tensioner.

Really it is very easy.

ac

 

[bloodline]

Mine started that crap around 17K miles. Replaced it with the upgraded part around 20K. At 27K now and it's perfect.

Same part on several models, same issues.

 

[avc8130]

Mine started that crap around 17K miles. Replaced it with the upgraded part around 20K. At 27K now and it's perfect.

Same part on several models, same issues.

Any idea what other models use this cct?

ac

 

[bloodline]

google r1 cam chain tensioner...

 

[avc8130]

google r1 cam chain tensioner...

They don't share part numbers...

ac

 

[bloodline]

They don't share part numbers...

ac

so?

 

[avc8130]

so?

So they ain't exactly the same. Design might be similar.

Yamaha has had a rough time with CCTs recently. FZ09 has CCT problems also, but their design is different-ish.

ac

 

[whisperquiet]

OK......who has installed a manual cam chain tensioner?

 

[carrot]

i won't be installing anymore manual cam chain tensioner they don't supply you with anything to block the oil passage the last one i did on my R6 i used JB weld and was always worried it might become loose and screw up the engine and its hard to tell if you have it adjusted right .

 

[twinrider]

Here is a video of my bike starting. 37,500 miles. Fresh 15w50 synthetic. The bike had been parked for ~2 hours.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrQH3g4BRJI&list=UUxbOlxpK-dt5luqX4rVO09A

I'll take a new video this morning after the bike has sat ~14 hours overnight.

ac

Mine sounds a bit like that on cold starts. About 27,500 miles on it.

 

[avc8130]

i won't be installing anymore manual cam chain tensioner they don't supply you with anything to block the oil passage the last one i did on my R6 i used JB weld and was always worried it might become loose and screw up the engine and its hard to tell if you have it adjusted right .

From what I have seen, they come with a new gasket that is solid and they are machined such that the oil is dead-headed. Is this not good enough?

ac

 

[North]

Never posted a video here before.

Just stumbled across this vide. thought I'd share it, I'm guessing its CCT that's bad here? Very noisy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW_b8RJCddM


I'm coming up on 20K miles and a 5000 mile trip planned for next week now this crap starts happening? Wonderful.

Any pattern to serial numbers or mileage at all yet?

Looks like i'll be changing mine out along with valve check after the trip.

 

[longride]

You're talking out of your ass dude. You don't get to decide what is a wear item or not, the maker does. It doesn't have to be checked periodically according to the service schedule. Wear items do. Modern day cam chains and tensioners should easily go minium 100 -200 thousand miles if they are designed correctly.

No, I'm not talking out my ass DUDE. Harley Twin Cam engines have CCT's that the service schedule makes NO MENTION of checking also. They will need replacing about every 30K. Ask the owners that DIDN"T do it how theirs broke and scattered across the engine by NOT checking and replacing them.

The Tenere doesn't have to be checked by the service schedule because it automatically adjusts. That doesn't mean it doesn't wear out. Tell me you are smarter than you write. 200K if they are designed correctly? Who decided that? You?

ANY chain, or tensioner is a WEAR ITEM DUDE. I didn't decide that, and the maker doesn't, friction and physics decided. How fast they wear out is YOUR concern if you are smart. If you aren't, then let the cam chain skip and scatter your engine DUDE.

 

[EricV]

FWIW, neither I, using the paper FSM, or my dealer using all of their electronic resources, including Irvine Tech support could identify a single specification or any method by which to actually check the cam chain.

And "worn" items are not covered under warranty.