New skid plate arrival

[True Grip]

What's wrong with that way to ride? Sounds like my life. LOL

::26::

Cedric agrees that cutting a hole isn't the best idea. He pointed out that if we cut a hole, and the tire were to still catch, it could grab a good hold on the tire and be a lot more troublesome than the tire currently smearing on the plate.

ac

That's funny. I should be politically correct and say "there's nothing wrong with that if that's what your into". Cedric maybe right rubbing would be better than grabbing. Hey a new way to scrub speed you should like that. I still have my alt rider on standby.

 

[p51super10bombay]

Cedric agrees that cutting a hole isn't the best idea.

It would be better if he agreed to correct the problem

 

[OneOff]

True Grip..!!


you better post something right now; not happy with your post count... >

 

[True Grip]

All is well!

 

[OneOff]

I emailed Cedric regarding compatibility with the ES model; I'm sure he wouldn't mind me posting the answer here for the information of all...

"Hi Peter



Sorry for the late answer , I've been quite busy yesterday.



Well we know that for the 2014 , the catalytic exhaust is lower and obviously we will have to do some changes but at the moment we are looking for a bike to make the changes.
Normally , just making the two arms longer of the rear Steel bracket should solve this problem.
What i would recommend is to cut them straight and to add a piece of 5 mm tick Steel sheet (you have to decide the size because i didn’t see the bike at this point ) , and to Weld them , and paint the bracket to avoid corrosion.

Once we will have the 2014 available we will inform our customers on the forums and also on eBay.

Regarding distribution in Australia , we work with 100% MX , but they don’t have the exclusivity because of the low level of business , so if you are interested we could talk about it.
We have a large range of parts and Australia has a big potential.


Kind regards
Cédric Choffat"

 

[avc8130]

It would be better if he agreed to correct the problem

Cedric offered to make me a custom skid plate similar to what Jaime wound up with. Big gaping hole in the front with side supports added. I'm still confirming whether it will clear the Arrow header or not.

This isn't free.

ac

 

[Dallara]

Cedric offered to make me a custom skid plate similar to what Jaime wound up with. Big gaping hole in the front with side supports added. I'm still confirming whether it will clear the Arrow header or not.

This isn't free.

ac

Just make sure he builds in clearance not just for the front wheel and Arrows headers, but also to clear the 2014 catalytic converter... That way he'll have a template for building a truly proper plate on into the future. ::025::

Dallara


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[avc8130]

Just make sure he builds in clearance not just for the front wheel and Arrows headers, but also to clear the 2014 catalytic converter... That way he'll have a template for building a truly proper plate on into the future. ::025::

Dallara


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Oh sure, let me get right on this. It's just my checkbook and dealing with a company far far away who barely speaks English.

He claims that my order was too long ago to accept a return. I'm not sure, but this is a latent product defect in my eyes.

Yeah...maybe it's your turn?

ac

 

[Dallara]

Oh sure, let me get right on this. It's just my checkbook and dealing with a company far far away who barely speaks English.

He claims that my order was too long ago to accept a return. I'm not sure, but this is a latent product defect in my eyes.

Yeah...maybe it's your turn?

ac

Hey, I'll vote with my checkbook and buy one!

Dallara


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[avc8130]

Hey, I'll vote with my checkbook and buy one!

Dallara


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I've already voted with my checkbook...and just like practically every election since I turned 18...I LOST.

ac

 

[offcamber]

This seemed like a very good soloution to the problem of having to remove and reinstall the long 12mm bolts each time you drop the skid plate so I gave it a try.



After a couple of trys local supplier managed to find 12mm x 1.25 x 80 mm grade #10, fully threaded bolts , along with some nuts and washers. They had nothing available that was plated for corrosion.

Which soon became 67mm long studs which is what was needed for my install with the Givi engine guards.

Sorry to drag this back to the top but I have a question. I did this mod last weekend. Both bolts were pretty close to 67mm...less than a mm difference. However when I installed them the left stud sticks out about 1/4" more than the right. I am pretty sure I threaded them in all the way and backed it out a turn. Marked the bolts with a sharpie to make sure they didn't turn when I tightened them. Is it possible one hole is deeper than the other?? After the ride this weekend I'm going to take it off and check it again.
Double nut and tighten them into the block

Washer and nut equal the same thickness as the ACD supplied spacer and can be tightened down and not needed to be removed for skidplate removal.

A couple of washers and nylock nuts and done. Should make the skidplate re and re a little easier when it comes time for the oil change.

 

[avc8130]

"Sorry to drag this back to the top but I have a question. I did this mod last weekend. Both bolts were pretty close to 67mm...less than a mm difference. However when I installed them the left stud sticks out about 1/4" more than the right. I am pretty sure I threaded them in all the way and backed it out a turn. Marked the bolts with a sharpie to make sure they didn't turn when I tightened them. Is it possible one hole is deeper than the other?? After the ride this weekend I'm going to take it off and check it again. "

Similar here. Since the threaded holes in the head are blind, and were never intended to be used to bottom, this doesn't surprise me.

It's really not a huge deal. Just make sure you have similar thread engagement, not overall length, as the stock setup.

ac

 

[scott123007]

For those of you that have found you have clearance issues (or should I say lack of clearance) with your tire contacting these plates when the forks are compressed, I would minimize the space between the plate and the exhaust by getting it as close to the headers as possible. Eliminating the washer and grinding the first nut to make it thinner may help. Not saying it will make much of a difference, but in most cases there seem to be engine guard brackets there which are already making that plate stick out another 1/8" than the way it was designed (all things being equal).

 

[avc8130]

For those of you that have found you have clearance issues (or should I say lack of clearance) with your tire contacting these plates when the forks are compressed, I would minimize the space between the plate and the exhaust by getting it as close to the headers as possible. Eliminating the washer and grinding the first nut to make it thinner may help. Not saying it will make much of a difference, but in most cases there seem to be engine guard brackets there which is already making that plate stick out another 1/8" than the way it was designed (all things being equal).

I think I might try re-bending the 2 top bends and elongating the mounting holes. The area the tire connects has HUGE clearance behind it and that serves no purpose.

That, or I might just take a sledgehammer to the POS and make it work with a careful "clearance relief".

ac

 

[True Grip]

::017::


Yeah if all else fails get the hammer

 

[PowersUSA]

Hammer Time

Did someone say hammer?

Here's mine installed last November and as you can see below it touched the headers. I tried adding washers (about 5mm worth) to space it out more. With the washers it did "just" clear the heads but would touch at times when the bike was running.

Well I couldn't have a plate that touched the header and I couldn't in good conscious sell the plate to someone else so this spring I said what the hell and took 20oz framing hammer to it. I first lined the inside with a few layers of duck tape to deaden the noise of the blows. It only took a few relatively light blows to get the shape you see below. Now there's no touching. I like how the plate mounts to the bike and coverage but the shape along the front is all wrong. Tight where it doesn't need to be and not tight where it needs to be (see the issue with front tire contact). So much wasted potential. I'm tempted to mock up a plate in 1/4 plywood just to show what could be done (mounting points, coverage, tire clearance and oil change without removal).

 

[avc8130]

Re: Hammer Time

Did someone say hammer?

Here's mine installed last November and as you can see below it touched the headers. I tried adding washers (about 5mm worth) to space it out more. With the washers it did

Well I couldn't have a plate that touched the header and I couldn't in good conscious sell the plate to someone else so this spring I said what the hell and took 20oz framing hammer to it. I first lined the inside with a few layers of duck tape to deaden the noise of the blows. It only took a few relatively light blows to get the shape you see below. Now there's no touching. I like how the plate mounts to the bike and coverage but the shape along the front is all wrong. Tight where it doesn't need to be and not tight where it needs to be (see the issue with front tire contact). So much wasted potential. I'm tempted to mock up a plate in 1/4 plywood just to show what could be done (mounting points, coverage, tire clearance and oil change without removal).

Are those the Arrow headers?

ac

 

[PowersUSA]

Re: Hammer Time

Are those the Arrow headers?

ac

Stock headers

 

[avc8130]

That's embarrassing.

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[avc8130]

Re: Hammer Time

I like how the plate mounts to the bike and coverage but the shape along the front is all wrong. Tight where it doesn't need to be and not tight where it needs to be (see the issue with front tire contact). So much wasted potential.

This is SO true.