oilfield_trash
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If my altrider plate hadn't performed so admirably, I'd be all over this. Pretty plate, but I got no reason to change.
New skid plate arrival
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ejy712
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I like this idea also. I have altrider crash bars and removing the bolts for a oil change is very time consuming. After some measurement I figure I would need 60mm studs. Then I could loctite the studs to the engine. Use one nut to secure the engine mount bracket and altrider crash bars. Then use a second nut to secure the ACD skid plate. This would move the skid plate forward a few mm which would provide additional clearance for the left exhaust pipe as it's pretty close now.Don in Lodi said:
So here's the problem. Where can I find M12-1.25 x 60mm threaded high strength steel studs which are coated for corrosion resistance? My internet search skills are failing me.
I have thought of finding some longer tap screws and cutting off the heads. But 50mm is the longest I can find. Any help here would be appreciated...
I found some on Home Depots web site and are having them shipped to me.
m12x1.25x75mm Tap bolt. They are zinc coated and 8.8 strength. Easy enough to cut the head off.
60s may be cutting in close on length I found some 50s at Ace and tried one was able to only get one nut on so basically no spacer. That will not work. They are not to easy to find. Love the plate but will like it better to not have to remove bolts just 4 nuts to remove plate for oil change. Don had a good idea just hanging the plate on the studs is like an extra set of hands.
m12x1.25x75mm Tap bolt. They are zinc coated and 8.8 strength. Easy enough to cut the head off.
60s may be cutting in close on length I found some 50s at Ace and tried one was able to only get one nut on so basically no spacer. That will not work. They are not to easy to find. Love the plate but will like it better to not have to remove bolts just 4 nuts to remove plate for oil change. Don had a good idea just hanging the plate on the studs is like an extra set of hands.
ejy712
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Agreed. I just ordered the same thing you did from Home Depot. I sure hope the shank is threaded all the way. I have a premonition that we will get a partially threaded shank based on looking at a lot of M12-1.25 bolts on the internet. We'll see...True Grip said:
oilfield_trash
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ejy712
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I checked this out. Only plain steel is available in M12-1.25 thread. I expect it would get rusty pretty quickly. Probably meant for indoor machinery.oilfield_trash said:
Thanks for the lead though...
I looked at McMasters too. If the Home Depot bolt has a shoulder the hunt will continue. I do have a co worker who has a lathe, some stainless rod and tap may be an answer. Stainless is not as strong but should be strong enough. If you were to break em you'd probably have much bigger problems or maybe no problems at all ever. If they have to be made I'll get extras
ejy712
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I found some plated 60mm tap bolts marked 8.8 this weekend. It looks like it's going to be close if I just use the shaft. We'll see.
It occurred to me that you could get your friend with the lathe to cut the hex head down to the right diameter. Then use a die to cut threads all the way. That would get you about 68mm. Might be enough. If I had access to a lathe that's what I would try.
Put the cut end into the engine block where corrosion resistance won't be an issue.
It occurred to me that you could get your friend with the lathe to cut the hex head down to the right diameter. Then use a die to cut threads all the way. That would get you about 68mm. Might be enough. If I had access to a lathe that's what I would try.
Put the cut end into the engine block where corrosion resistance won't be an issue.
ejy712
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@TrueGrip
You are correct. I took the assembly apart this morning and did some more measuring. I need at least 68mm. Please let me know if the Home Depot bolts are indeed threaded 70mm as I cancelled my order. I'm looking for a local machinist to see if I can get the hex heads turned down and threaded.
You are correct. I took the assembly apart this morning and did some more measuring. I need at least 68mm. Please let me know if the Home Depot bolts are indeed threaded 70mm as I cancelled my order. I'm looking for a local machinist to see if I can get the hex heads turned down and threaded.
I'll let you know. So far I've only found 50mm of threads. Where did you get 60mm bolts from?
sierraoffroad
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does anyone here know how to get a hold of the ACD people?? I placed my ebay order last week and haven't heard anything back at all.
cosmic
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acd_cedric@recamlaser.comsierraoffroad said:
Mr Cedric.
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sierraoffroad
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thanks cosmic. i'll send an email tomorrow just incase they are a little behind due to the big snow storms.
ejy712
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I got the 60mm bolts from a hardware store in Oxford, PA. They had the longest threads I have seen.True Grip said:
I checked into the machinist and decided there must be a less expensive way. So if the Home Depot bolts aren't threaded the whole way then I'm going to order this:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#95245a110/=pu6qh4
And cut a couple of 70mm lengths. This is high strength, but has no corrosion protection. I plan to use CorrosionX at every oil change on the bolts. Should work.
I went to a Fastenal store in New Castle today. We found some 80mm tap bolts. 3-4 weeks delivery and minimum order quantity of 50. I passed.
What a journey...
sierraoffroad
no matter where you go: there you are!
I think the idea of using metric threaded rod might be a good idea, but I'd use high temp anti seize if I couldn't find the proper bolts.
ejy712
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Not sure I understand. I'm trying to avoid using bolts so I won't have to disassemble skid plate, crash bars, and engine mount every time I change oil. I was going to cut the head off of the bolts and use them as studs.sierraoffroad said:
I was thinking of using Loctite Red to keep the stud in the engine block. Then a nylok nut to keep the assembly together.
sierraoffroad
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i really shouldn't comment here until I actually receive the skidplate. i ordered mine last thursday and haven't heard anything since.
ejy712
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Ah. Understood. I'm trying to solve a problem when the ACD skid plate is used with AltRider crash bars. If you have this combination you will see what I'm talking about. Enjoy the skid plate. It's a thing of beauty - both form and function...sierraoffroad said:
sierraoffroad
no matter where you go: there you are!
I'm not sure what to do here. I placed my order on ebay last Thursday and have emailed acd a few times to check in to see if and or when my skidplate will ship out. I haven't heard anything since. I guess i'll give it a few more days. I wonder if anyone else has had this same issue?
cosmic
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Did you contacted Cedric? He replied to me every single time a had a question in a past six months.
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