Will you take the vaccine

[Mak10]

I guess I still don't understand. I have an aunt that is vaccinated fully with multiple boosters. Yet she still had had Covid and tested positive four times. I'm having a hard time with the "vaccinated" are not spreaders line of reasoning. She has enough of the virus to test positive, has symptoms and is sick.
I'm not buying the theory that the vaccinated are not capable of spreading covid.

 

[Quique]

Ok, this makes more sense. 'Cuz, I was with Mak as far as wondering why vaccinated people didn't have to follow protocols although they could still spread. They can, but not in the same way as unvaccinated person. I just figured it was a ploy to get everybody vaxed.

yes Sierra, you got it. And in your case, as you are getting boosters, there is no time of response because you have the blood plenty of antibodies all the time. If a virus comes in, it will find the antibodies in there ready to block the virus. In my case, as I only had two shots and that was some time ago, there will be some time of response.

 

[Quique]

I guess I still don't understand. I have an aunt that is vaccinated fully with multiple boosters. Yet she still had had Covid and tested positive four times. I'm having a hard time with the "vaccinated" are not spreaders line of reasoning. She has enough of the virus to test positive, has symptoms and is sick.
I'm not buying the theory that the vaccinated are not capable of spreading covid.

No problem mak. I am happy to help. Please excuse me if I get excited from time to time.
Don't buy that theory because it is wrong. A vaccinated one can spread the virus. Later, it depends on the other person who receives the virus either to develop the disease or not.
The difference is that a non vaccinated person is a factory of virus. They expel many and for a long time. However, a vaccinated one is a small machine making new viruses and they expel less viruses and for a short time.
Being said this, the immunology is far more complicated. I am trying to explain it on a very basic level so that everyone can understand it. When you go to the detail, person by person, there are many factors involved that can modify or influence over the basic theory. It is complicated but exciting when you like it.

 

[Sierra1]

. . . . I am trying to explain it on a very basic level so that everyone can understand it. . . .

Can you explain why this last booster has not caused any aches/pains like the previous boosters? It is the Omicron booster, but I haven't felt anything this time.

 

[blitz11]

Placebo.

 

[Quique]

Can you explain why this last booster has not caused any aches/pains like the previous boosters? It is the Omicron booster, but I haven't felt anything this time.

Honestly, I can't. I think that this might be a small damage to a nerve by the needle, or due to pressure on the nerve by the liquid pushed inside, or a small muscle fiber damaged... mechanical explanations not related with the vaccine itself. Just an opinion. I am not sure.

 

[OldRider]

There's a video of him saying something about using bleach, internally, to prevent covid. Me . . . . having enough common sense . . . . watched the video, and did think that he meant it as a serious option. Others disagree, and have ran with it. And this is about as far as this conversation is allowed to go.

The words were "something like that". He should have added "that is safe for humans to take", but I think he assumed people would be smart enough to figure that out.

 

[Quique]

Placebo or not, if the needle touches a nerve, you will feel some pain until it is repaired.

 

[WJBertrand]

The words were "something like that". He should have added "that is safe for humans to take", but I think he assumed people would be smart enough to figure that out.

I saw the broadcast when Trump mentioned the use of bleach. What I saw was him turning to his medical experts that were also present in the news conference, and asked them this question about bleach “or something like that”. The medical experts were a bit taken aback, probably because of the ignorance of the question, and seemed to hesitate a bit to search for an answer.
I did not see him turn to the cameras and recommend folks use bleach as has been misconstrued in the media.


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[Sierra1]

. . . . as has been misconstrued in the media.

. . . . as has been misused by the media. I agree, they looked like they didn't know if he was serious. Brainiacs do have a totally different sense of humor, and didn't get his. Not to mention they were in the presence of the President.

 

[regder]

. . . . as has been misused by the media. I agree, they looked like they didn't know if he was serious. Brainiacs do have a totally different sense of humor, and didn't get his. Not to mention they were in the presence of the President.

Hopefully we are far enough away from this moment to view it objectively

 

[Wallkeeper]

. . . . as has been misused by the media. I agree, they looked like they didn't know if he was serious. Brainiacs do have a totally different sense of humor, and didn't get his. Not to mention they were in the presence of the President.

yup, who wants to be the one to tell the Emperor about his new clothes?

 

[magic]

One has to consider the source.

 

[Checkswrecks]

On the verge of getting political so thanks to all for watching the line and not crossing.

From the human side though, Dr. Birx face was priceless. There were a few of those press conferences where she &/or Fauci had that incredulous WTF look like the teacher might give in grade school as you tried to spin a story to get out of something. You just knew their brains were in panic mode as they thought:
"How the H#LL am I going to explain or re-word this when he is done?"

LOL

Got the newest booster Friday and had some minor aches and low grade headache for most of a day but no big deal.

 

[WJBertrand]

Just a question about those using the derogatory sheeple comments;

If you were swimming at the beach and the life guard shouted “SHARK!” would you stay in the water while everyone else got out for fear of appearing to be a “sheeple?”


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[fac191]

Just a question about those using the derogatory sheeple comments;

If you were swimming at the beach and the life guard shouted “SHARK!” would you stay in the water while everyone else got out for fear of appearing to be a “sheeple?”


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Just a question about those using the derogatory sheeple comments;

If you were swimming at the beach and the life guard shouted “SHARK!” would you stay in the water while everyone else got out for fear of appearing to be a “sheeple?”


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So just to clarify, if i take the vaccine which i have and going to have a Booster on Thursday im " Sheeple "

 

[WJBertrand]

So just to clarify, if i take the vaccine which i have and going to have a Booster on Thursday im " Sheeple "

That’s what some folks (not me - I’m gettin’ out of the water!) will accuse us of.


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[fac191]

Ok I get it now thanks.
To be fair though I don't think we would be relying on a Lifeguard to keep us safe.
We wouldn't go into the water in the first place as we would apply
" Common Sense "

 

[fac191]

Angela Rasmussen on Covid-19: ‘This origins discussion is the worst thing about Twitter’

Did Sars-CoV-2 emerge from a Huanan market stall or a lab? For the American virologist, who has been abused online for defending a ‘natural’ origin, the evidence is clear

www.theguardian.com

 

[WJBertrand]

Angela Rasmussen on Covid-19: ‘This origins discussion is the worst thing about Twitter’

Did Sars-CoV-2 emerge from a Huanan market stall or a lab? For the American virologist, who has been abused online for defending a ‘natural’ origin, the evidence is clear

www.theguardian.com

Interesting. I’ve kind of hung out between the market and lab leak theories waiting for more data. As time goes on it seems the more reputable sources are pointing back at the markets. After all this has happened before so seems more plausible. It’s unfortunate, if the market is indeed the source, that this institute of virology is in the same town. I wonder if the lab leak theory would have gained as much traction if the outbreak started in a different city without a virology lab?