What is happening with this Anakee 3??
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cosmic
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Wtf??
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triman11427
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I've seen that same situation on another post, possibly on another forum. It seems the tire has a different compound in the center which is harder than the outer compound. I'm not sure if this is accurate. There was an opinion that this prevents the tire from squaring off as it wears.
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Poohbear
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Most road tyres are constructed like this or they would square off very quicklytriman11427 said:
triman11427
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Absolutely true. Maybe this new tire has a different compound and this is the result.Poohbear said:Most road tyres are constructed like this or they would square off very quickly
ejy712
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You are not alone. I run 37 PSI front and my Anakee 3 looks exactly like yours...immigrant said:
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I've already written a bit about my opinion of the Michelin Anakee 3 - basically that they're not a bad set of tires but I doubt I'll mount another set ever again.
However, I think I may have a possible answer to your wear issue. First here's pictures of both my front (first 2 of the front) and rear (3rd pic is rear) Anakee 3's, taken just a few minutes ago, and with 2,194 miles (3,530 km) on them...
Though they appear, at least at this point, that they may outlast the Metzeler Tourance EXP's I used previously, I haven't been very happy with them otherwise. That said, I have experimented quite a bit with tire pressures with them, primarily to see if I could make them stick better on pavement. I've run as low a 31 in the front, and as high as 38. Nothing has made them achieve the grip levels I prefer, but one thing I have found is that relatively low pressures work a whole lot better. 32 to 34 for me, with 33 what I usually run with (rear seems to like 40 to 41).
Mind you, I'm a big, heavy rider, and ride pretty aggressively (ex-MX'er, ex-road-racer, and all that), so I'm not easy on my tires. As you can see from the pics I am *NOT* experiencing the wear pattern you are, but pretty even wear across the tread face of the front tire. The rear is squaring off a bit, but hat else is new? ::025::
I should note that down here in South Texas we are reknown for having some of the most abrasive pavement around and it is always *HOT* as hell (got to 104 degrees where I was riding this weekend, up around Lake Medina), so our environment is not easy on rubber, either. 80 to 85 MPH is the average highway cruise speed, too.
I'd suggest, just as an experiment, you try running your front Anakee 3 at about 31 - 34 PSI... No more than 34, with 32 or 33 being the place to start, and see if the wear pattern improves.
Hope this helps!
Dallara
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I've already written a bit about my opinion of the Michelin Anakee 3 - basically that they're not a bad set of tires but I doubt I'll mount another set ever again.
However, I think I may have a possible answer to your wear issue. First here's pictures of both my front (first 2 of the front) and rear (3rd pic is rear) Anakee 3's, taken just a few minutes ago, and with 2,194 miles (3,530 km) on them...
Though they appear, at least at this point, that they may outlast the Metzeler Tourance EXP's I used previously, I haven't been very happy with them otherwise. That said, I have experimented quite a bit with tire pressures with them, primarily to see if I could make them stick better on pavement. I've run as low a 31 in the front, and as high as 38. Nothing has made them achieve the grip levels I prefer, but one thing I have found is that relatively low pressures work a whole lot better. 32 to 34 for me, with 33 what I usually run with (rear seems to like 40 to 41).
Mind you, I'm a big, heavy rider, and ride pretty aggressively (ex-MX'er, ex-road-racer, and all that), so I'm not easy on my tires. As you can see from the pics I am *NOT* experiencing the wear pattern you are, but pretty even wear across the tread face of the front tire. The rear is squaring off a bit, but hat else is new? ::025::
I should note that down here in South Texas we are reknown for having some of the most abrasive pavement around and it is always *HOT* as hell (got to 104 degrees where I was riding this weekend, up around Lake Medina), so our environment is not easy on rubber, either. 80 to 85 MPH is the average highway cruise speed, too.
I'd suggest, just as an experiment, you try running your front Anakee 3 at about 31 - 34 PSI... No more than 34, with 32 or 33 being the place to start, and see if the wear pattern improves.
Hope this helps!
Dallara
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interesting read............I will take only right turns for the next few weeksKevhunts said:
The 38psi was when loaded, will lessen to 33 psi for general commuting and hopefully it evens out. The back tire shows even wear.
The stockers did not show this kind of wear.
Will send michelin a photo - not to pick a fight or get a new tire - but just to get their take on this
immigrant said:interesting read............I will take only right turns for the next few weeks
The 38psi was when loaded, will lessen to 33 psi for general commuting and hopefully it evens out. The back tire shows even wear.
The stockers did not show this kind of wear.
Will send michelin a photo - not to pick a fight or get a new tire - but just to get their take on this
I think letting Michelin see the wear pattern is a good idea. I had a rather bizarre failure on a literally brand new Metzeler Z6 a few years ago and they not only gave me a brand new tire but insisted on having the failed tire sent back to them... Here's a pic of the failed Metzeler:
And regarding the pressures, in my recent experience with the Anakee 3 I've found that even when fully loaded up, bags full and all (and again, I'm a big boy), that 33 PSI seems to be about ideal. 34 feel OK, but 35-36 it starts to feel goofy. I know it shows a max pressure of 41 PSI on the sidewall, but so does the rear yet people are running them at 42 PSI regularly.
Just FYI... YMMV.
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It looks premature for front wear yes, but it does look like typical radial tire wear as I have seen over the years on sport -touring tires. The center radial belt is the raised part, and the sides just off of it flex more and wear like that. Although there is argument radial vs. bias ply tires. I never experienced any issues with bias ply tires which never seemed to do this. I remember the Dunlop K591 to be exact as a great tire until Harley bought it and used the sizes for the Deuce back then.
rush2112
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I imagine most of your riding is in the twisties, which is a good thing. If that's so then it looks to me that you are wearing the softer rubber faster than the center. I had Roadsmarts that used to do this when 90% of my riding was in the mountains. When I started doing more over the road, long distance, I never saw this again. I always saw this on the front, never on the rear.
Wanderer
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Howdy,
::026:: I'm old so bear with me but "back in the day" that type of wear would indicate an over-pressurized tire. I also run 33 front and 38 rear normally. That's with OEM bags and trunk and the associated stuff I always carry. Loaded up I'll increase the rear approx. 2 lbs. for every 50 lbs. of load up to manufacturer's recommended maximum pressure. Another "back in the day" rule of thumb. Did this with the OEM Bridgestones and when they came off the rear still had another 1000 miles or so left at 8000 and the front more than twice that. I also consider myself an aggressive street rider and find the comments on handling confusing. :question: I find the 3's to be way better than the Bridgestones on pavement.
Later,
Norm
::026:: I'm old so bear with me but "back in the day" that type of wear would indicate an over-pressurized tire. I also run 33 front and 38 rear normally. That's with OEM bags and trunk and the associated stuff I always carry. Loaded up I'll increase the rear approx. 2 lbs. for every 50 lbs. of load up to manufacturer's recommended maximum pressure. Another "back in the day" rule of thumb. Did this with the OEM Bridgestones and when they came off the rear still had another 1000 miles or so left at 8000 and the front more than twice that. I also consider myself an aggressive street rider and find the comments on handling confusing. :question: I find the 3's to be way better than the Bridgestones on pavement.
Later,
Norm
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::008:: Amen to all of the above...
But if you are referring to my comments about the "handling" of the Anakee 3's please note I was *NOT* comparing them to any Bridgestones. I've never run any kind of Bridgestone on my Super Tenere. I was comparing them to the Metzeler Tourance EXP's I have used on my Super Tenere - that's 5 rears and 3 fronts of those in 28.650 miles (approx. 46,100 km). You can read my comments about the Anakee 3's in the other various Anakee 3 threads on this forum.
Basically I think the Anakee 3's are a little better off-road, and they are a bit more compliant and softer riding. The front steers slightly crisper and more precise than the Tourance EXP front, but it's not as stable mid-corner, requiring more attention. The biggest problem I have with the Anakee 3's is when you really have 'em cranked over, right on the edge. There they have a bad tendency to just sudden "let go"... And it's not a real progressive sliding away, but all at once... And you can even get 'em to do it in TCS-1!!!
The Tourance EXP's were better when you really pressed them in the twisty bits on pavement, IMHO.
Just my two centavos... YMMV.
Dallara
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weird.
I'm in the garage assessing my wear on the front shinko, and the absolutely destroyed mitas dakar rear.
Moar to follow.
But that front tire does not look right.
I'm in the garage assessing my wear on the front shinko, and the absolutely destroyed mitas dakar rear.
Moar to follow.
But that front tire does not look right.
Mzee
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My neighbour has put on those annakee 3s and swears by them.