I think there are rim options available, without going large. However the T7 guys have also tried the Tubliss system with some success; often used for enduro & MX .......... https://advrider.com/f/threads/tubliss-long-term-review.831867/
I've been using the Tubliss on all my dirt bikes for quite a few years. On the T700 only the front system will work. The T700 rear rim is too wide. You have to replace the rim for it to work.I think there are rim options available, without going large. However the T7 guys have also tried the Tubliss system with some success; often used for enduro & MX .......... https://advrider.com/f/threads/tubliss-long-term-review.831867/
The T700 is a very heavy bike?For a bike that sees a lot of pavement I can see the advantage. But for off road travel tubes are the way to go. On my Super Tenere I alway carry spare tubes. Another advantage of tubes is ability to run double rim locks. With a stiff carcass tire you can ride out a flat without worry of tire coming off the rim. At freeway speeds on the highway it's a great safety feature to get you in a safe spot to repair.
Of course the disadvantage is longer on the side of the road for repair. I really do like the fact that I can plug and go in most situations.
How so very true Eric. I was lucky enough to have a good few hours of saddle time on a 1st gen S10 in 2013. I saved for a big bike for almost 5 years after that. Almost any bike can have the ergos setup to fit the rider.
There is one bike that I test rode that no amount of ergo fitting or replacement would work for me. That was the Ducati Enduro. I took one out for a spin and could not wait to get it back to the dealer. It was the most odd handling and ill fitting bike I ever swung a leg over. I even tried to flip the rear brake lever. I tried to imagine how I could get bars to fit. It was just uncomfortable. Also the heat coming off the motor roasted my legs all the way to my nuts. Quite frankly it was way too much bike anyway.
This T700 looks to be a solid machine. It is still a very heavy bike. As my riding days wind down I'm liking my Beta more and more for mellow trail riding. The S10 is great for long days in the saddle exploring remote pavement and dirt roads.
If I get another bike in the garage I'm thinking either a TM 300EN or Yamaha MT09. Just depends how my body holds out after I heal up.
No matter how you slice it all the bikes you listed are very heavy bikes. I'm willing to bet older guys like me have no desire to pick one of these beasts off the ground. In some cases you simply can't lift one up without help. The MT-07 is a street bike. Anything under 500lbs is light for the street. Anything over 300lbs is heavy in the dirt.The T700 is a very heavy bike?
Lol you do realize a lot of the prospective buyers are older guys who are used to or now riding lightweight bikes such as Africa Twins, Tenere 1200, BMW GS and the like, right??
I have an MT-07.
Compared to the bikes I listed it feels like a featherweight!
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Didn't ride in the mountains much did ya?I have ridden a few Versys 650s and they were the most vibrating hand numbing junk that I can remember riding.
I'm thinking all it will need is a better seat for long days in the saddle.My initial thought was "I would not want to do a long distance trip on the T7". Then I realized that the guys out there doing long distance trips on a KLR....will LOVE the T7. 'Cuz, thinking about it....the T7 is an updated & improved KLR. Kawasaki....you snooze, ya' lose.
The new 700 definitely is not under priced. (My Opinion). It’s going to be interesting to actually see how many they sell. I‘m another one that believes they should have built them with cruise control , tubeless tires and shaft drive.That's because the T12 is underpriced compared to IT'S competition. (my opinion)
While there are rumors that Yamaha may eventually come out with a more dirt oriented T7, that link refers to the World Raid prototypes that were ridden in several parts of the world while developing the production model that was introduced to the rest of the world last year.Let's not forget the World Raid version will be coming out as well. This will be the more off road version of the T700 with better suspension and navigational features:
World Raid was the name Yamaha used in relation to the prototype of the current version of the T7.Let's not forget the World Raid version will be coming out as well. This will be the more off road version of the T700 with better suspension and navigational features:
If it's like the MT09 you can expect top of the line Kayaba forks and an Ohlins shock, along with different paint.I’ve just read Yamaha will be introducing a T700 Rally version. It’s been talk about before but “evidently” it will be coming soon to Europe and then across the globe.
I would be interested in the version. Anyone have any ideas what this might offer?
(I hope) a color “modern” dash panel
And different stickers ....... lol
I will have fun reading post about new info over the next several years. Good times