The 2021 Yamaha Tenere 700

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I will pass , going from the 1200 to the 700 ,that's greater to lesser..... it will suck on long trips (chain maintenance alone ) to heavy for single track , to light for long distant comfort.... looks cool though.... Yamaha should have invested the money in improving the 1200.... as mine is 7 years old now .
 

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I will pass , going from the 1200 to the 700 ,that's greater to lesser..... it will suck on long trips (chain maintenance alone ) to heavy for single track , to light for long distant comfort.... looks cool though.... Yamaha should have invested the money in improving the 1200.... as mine is 7 years old now .
The 700 has to have a different mission statement. The FJ-09 is closer to the FJR, and IT'S not real close, than the T-7 is to the Super Tenere. They did improve the 1200....it's called a Gen II. ;)
 

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I wish they would have put the new 700 engine into the old 660 tenere and left the old styling, as the 660 was 10x better looking to me at least. Do that, get rid of chain drive and it would be interesting. As it is, not too much interest from me. Hope it does well though.
 

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I wish they would have put the new 700 engine into the old 660 tenere and left the old styling, as the 660 was 10x better looking to me at least. Do that, get rid of chain drive and it would be interesting. As it is, not too much interest from me. Hope it does well though.
Sounds like they were trying to keep they weight reasonable. Wouldn't be surprised if that's why they kept the chain...

Anyway, I'm hoping to get on one when they come to North America and see how it rides, the reviews I've seen are all positive so far, excessively so :)
 
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Last weekend I’ve seen one finally in Portugal. Static Demo only at my Yamaha dealership Lisbon region. This unit is on tour through the country.

Start selling this July at 10500€.
I’m 1,83 tall (around 6ft) and the bike is tall - spring pre load was middle range and I barely flat footed. It’s narrower than the Africa Twin and feels lighter (at least stopped).
Seat feels nice and narrow (my wife would hate it). All ergonomics feels perfect. You feel like you’re on 450cc Enduro on steroids.

They let us start the bike and the sound reminded the S10 a bit sharper - I mean less grunt and again not exciting. It definitely needs an Akrapovic.
Lights front and rear are LED except indicators and license plate light.

On a personal point of view I won’t trade my S10 for the T7. As someone stated above too small for 2up trip and too big, expensive and heavy for a “toy”. Could be an excellent commuter bike though.
I can’t go back to “chain stuff” anymore

Excuse my English - it’s not my native language.
 

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Siera1, gen 2 is ok , but already dated , no ergo improvements , abs up date , or even a bit more power . cruise control would be nice ,(even the currant model year paint scheme seems like left over parts bin stuff) ill just have to keep riding mine...…
 

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Siera1, gen 2 is ok , but already dated , no ergo improvements , abs up date , or even a bit more power . cruise control would be nice ,(even the currant model year paint scheme seems like left over parts bin stuff) ill just have to keep riding mine...…
Cruise Control certainly IS nice and all Gen 2's have had it since 2014 along with some ergo improvements (bars) and a bit more power. Try it, you'll like it. :)
 
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In my opinion, the T7 being a totally different bike from the "T12", it should've been the T9. I DO agree with Madhatter about the paint jobs....definitely substandard for Yamaha.
 

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I intend to keep my T12 ES and buy a T7. Yes, they are totally different bikes and that is why I intend to have both. As far as T9, a great engine, but I prefer the personality of the 700 twin engine over the 900 triple. Love that bottom end torque.
 

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I intend to keep my T12 ES and buy a T7. Yes, they are totally different bikes and that is why I intend to have both. As far as T9, a great engine, but I prefer the personality of the 700 twin engine over the 900 triple. Love that bottom end torque.
It'll be interesting to see what they can do. I love touring on the SuperT, but in the dirt I find it too heavy (not gravel roads, but double track and more technical stuff).

I can see owning a T7 and a WR250R to cover the ride far, then dirt and the 'knarly dirt' close to home... and my keeping my Aprilia Tuono to take to track days and Starbucks ;)
 

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Yes, I will have to see if the T7 can replace my wonderfully well set up DR650 on the type of adv courses I ride. It is 80 pounds heavier, but with twice the HP. Of course, I rarely use all the HP on the DR650 on the unpaved sections I ride, so we will see. One thing I know is that after riding the FZ07, the 700 twin that comes in the T7 is one of the most intoxicating engines I have ever ridden. Might end up with 2 Yamahas and 1 Suzuki. We shall see..........
 

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just so everyone knows, I hope it does well for Yamaha.... so Yamaha knows it has a customer base in the 1200 just waiting to jump on a new and improved 1200 (1250 ) or what ever , so they slowly bring out the 700... just scratching my head.....
 

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@Madhatter - Go buy a Ducati 1250 Multistrada Enduro, a KTM1290 SA R or a BMW 1250GS if that's what you want. Buy a new one every 1-3 years. Never, ever let the warranty expire while you own it. No sense in waiting for Yamaha.
 

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I'm thinking/guessing this must be a "grass is greener...." thing. As front heavy as the Tenere is, she will raise the front wheel when ever you want; even with a fat ass like me on it. More power would be beneficial at very high speeds, or high altitude(s). Possibly in mud or sand, but then you have to have the skill to throw a 600lb bike around without worry. Everybody has their idea/image of the "perfect" bike. None of the bikes that Mr. Eric mentioned can be had for what the Tenere costs. Weight & power. Those seem to be the main bitches. I would think that if Yamaha could improve those areas, while retaining reliability and cost effectiveness, they would; it's silly to think otherwise. How can someone bitch about a bike that will take you anywhere, get you home, and then blast around a racetrack with sportbikes? Like Mr. Eric advised, go buy one the competitors....live with it for 3 years....and see which bike(s) you prefer. As always....just my opinion. :cool:
 

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I really don't see the T700 as the competitor to the SuperT. I think the riders who want the T700 are not going to be happy on the SuperT and vice versa.

There are probably a small number that would have preferred to buy the old Tenere 660 if it had been available in North America, who are seriously going to look at 'going smaller'. But the folks that want the capabilities (close to) the other 'big-ADV' bikes in a reliable package aren't going to jump ship en-mass.

Hell, mostly I'm just glad that the North American consumer will get the same choice as the EU consumers, that's a win, even if it's going to be a year late! :)
 
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