p51super10bombay
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Since mine is still down waiting parts, panel exposed, now is the time I guess. Where is that hidden allen screw?
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You find the screw behind the panel, tucked in by the right fork leg.p51super10bombay said:Since mine is still down waiting parts, panel exposed, now is the time I guess. Where is that hidden allen screw?
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avc8130 said:You find the screw behind the panel, tucked in by the right fork leg.
Realistically, you'll figure it out once you get into it. It's very easy.
ac
Hmm...I'm not sure if they would be related.p51super10bombay said:that's got to be the one I didn't find while getting the ignition switch off, had all the bolts out on the front and figured it was just wire holding it in place.
Did you PM ac before you posted this? Betcha he has the answer / solution.copb8 said:Hmmmmm....this may be pre-mature since I've only ridden the bike about 20 miles since I installed the flashed ECU, and all those miles were with a passenger, but it now seems that the off-idle stumble is back.
Prior to the ECU flash I'd done the CJM mod and this seemed to fix the stumble and throttle restrictions. When I re-installed my ECU with the new flash I also removed the clutch jumper mod. I assumed that with it in place I would only be using the map associated with that state. The stumble is subtle but obvious and is present in both the Touring and Sport maps.
Thoughts?
Pretty much...it really depends on how the maps you chose interact at this crossover point. The other main cause is the stock bike's throttle mapping. There IS a stumble built in.scott123007 said:In theory anyway, the "stumble" as you call it, will always be there without the CJM. It happens as the clutch switch engages, when you're letting the clutch out. That is the point that whichever map that is chosen becomes relevant, and the slight moving of the throttle plates make that feeling. Give it a tad more throttle as you are first letting out your clutch from a stop and you will never feel it. If you had a third map made for when your CJM is on, you will notice it doesn't happen then.
Bart,copb8 said:Hmmmmm....this may be pre-mature since I've only ridden the bike about 20 miles since I installed the flashed ECU, and all those miles were with a passenger, but it now seems that the off-idle stumble is back.
Prior to the ECU flash I'd done the CJM mod and this seemed to fix the stumble and throttle restrictions. When I re-installed my ECU with the new flash I also removed the clutch jumper mod. I assumed that with it in place I would only be using the map associated with that state. The stumble is subtle but obvious and is present in both the Touring and Sport maps.
Thoughts?
Bart,copb8 said:Tomatocity,
I posted here because the title is 'Results Only....' and not just 'Good Results Only.....'. Posting it here let's everyone see and talk about all results. It's not critical and I'm sure AVC wouldn't see it that way.
Scott123007,
Are you saying that regardless of the map chosen the bike is always set to slightly retard the fuel delivery during clutch engagement, regardless of the map? And that this designed hesitation isn't accessible via the ECU settings to eliminate?
Ok, so stupid question, is it self-defeating to leave the CJM in AND have the ECU flashed?
I'll do this. I can tell you the RPM's are quite low and the throttle position very slight.avc8130 said:Bart,
You are correct that if you left the CJM in you would get only the maps we decided to put in your CJM modes.
To clear up some confusions before it starts...even the CJM is technically "restricted". No free control of the throttle is allowed with the CJM until 4k rpm and 30% throttle.
Can you try to pin point the conditions of this stumble? Throttle opening (wrist) and rpm?
I save every map I flash so I can review them and look into things just like this.
ac
Yeah, that's a real nightmare of a position for modern fuel injection...especially on this big cylinder cross-plane twin.copb8 said:I'll do this. I can tell you the RPM's are quite low and the throttle position very slight.
I'm also going to try switching between CJM'ed and not CJM'ed to get some side-by-side comparisons. While my ECU was out and during the time it sat on my workbench wait to be put back in I was riding the FJR and maybe, just maybe, I'd kinda forgotten how the S10 felt.
PM sent.p51super10bombay said:ECU is out, boxed and labeled to you, will drop at PO tomorrow. Can you pm email address so I can forward USPS tracking message?