Results only, avc8130 Affordable Flash Option..

[Ramseybella]

I saw the thread and for $100.00 to replace the crude CJM I would be interested in your results and vote on the new ECU mod offered by avc8130.
On road.
Off road.

And Gas, miles per gallon.

 

[mingo]

Just so we don't clutter this thread with "what are you talking about", look here at avc's thread:


http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=10252.0


Looking forward to hearing from others who've had this done, and keeping in mind that a lot of us are winter bound and aren't riding right now.

 

[avc8130]

YES! Please post up results. The "flash" is a constantly evolving item. When I can ride the bike (been snow bound for ~a month) I keep trying to improve it. I'm pretty much "stuck" at the current configuration until I get feedback from others.

ac

 

[oKLRider]

Mine's already in the link, but here's a bump. ::024:: ::008::

 

[avc8130]

oKLRider's comments:

"Skimming this thread, I came across an offer from ac (avc8130) in one of his posts that he'd be willing to flash others' ECMs as an experiment. He'd already developed what he thought was a pretty solid flash, and simply wanted opinions. After some emails back and forth, I took him up on it. ::008::

We talked back and forth about riding style, likes, dislikes, etc. A couple of shipping labels, a cardboard box, and a ride to the UPS Store later...it was off. I anxiously awaited the return of my black box, riding the wife's KLX250 in the interim. About a week or so later, it was back! Like a kid at Christmas I was into the package, and out to the garage. Reassembly, check. Ignition on, check. Starter, and it still runs...woohoo! My initial impressions after coming back on it from the KLX were words that would probably get me banned. ::26::

He ended up putting three different maps in; one for standard 'T', one for standard 'S', and one in experimental that we'll call '2S'. Right out of the box the difference was noticeable in both 'T' and 'S', but I quickly fell in love with '2S'. This extra map is accessed with the CJM. Had I known then what I know now, it'd probably be my 'S' map. ::024::

I've been running around with his flash for about 800mi now. 600 of that was on a road trip, the other 200 from commuting. I wanted to get a more solid and honest feel for it before posting an impulse "OMG! This is the best thing ever!" response. My main goal was throttle response, and boy did I get it with '2S'! It's like an on/off switch now. Daddy like! You can ride it like a hooligan. Guilty. Or you can cruise at 80 in high gear, and accelerate further with ease. It's hard to describe without being too dramatic. You really have to ride one to feel the difference. It's really amazing the difference a few 1s and 0s can make.

This is a small, one Tenere town, so I've got nothing to compare it to but memory....but wow...big difference over stock. Ac was/is a standup guy. Knows his stuff, and was cool enough to share knowledge to help promote this small market that we all ride in. Well worth the effort. ::008:: ::26:: ::001::"

 

[Ramseybella]

Just so we don't clutter this thread with "what are you talking about", look here at avc's thread:


http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=10252.0


Looking forward to hearing from others who've had this done, and keeping in mind that a lot of us are winter bound and aren't riding right now.

Yes it is the one I was referring to, started this thread to fill in the blanks so I can pull myself together and decide what I want.
Better throttle response is one but still keep T mode on a chain for technical type off roading (slow maneuvering) but off the chain for long touring.

And yes better gas mileage all in one package..

 

[Sckill]

I'm also very interested in the results. avc isn't too far away from me so I'm hoping to avoid shipping time and minimize bike downtime if I flash.

avc doesn't make any claims on improved gas mileage and if all that's being done is a change to the throttle map, I don't think we would see any change to mpg. Please correct me if I'm being a noob.

 

[oKLRider]

Mileage wasn't a concern of mine, but even ripping on it I get about 40mpg.

 

[avc8130]

I guess everyone is snowbound.

Stupid polar vortex. ::002::

ac

 

[Ramseybella]

To busy reinstalling ECU's? ::017::

 

[becoyote]

I'm real happy with mine ::008::

AC was super fast doing the flash and getting back to me. Sport mode is definitely sportier. ::012::

 

[avc8130]

I was hoping to see more reviews. Quite a few of them out there now, but I think most of them did go to areas covered in snow.

ac

 

[Frenchfries]

AC,
I got to ride about 300+ miles in twisties North of LA this week end (while every body is under the snow).
As soon the engine cools down, I'll ship the ECU to you. You can expect a full detailed report short after the re-flashed ECU has been re installed.
Phil
Threat: you better do a good job!

 

[avc8130]

AC,
I got to ride about 300+ miles in twisties North of LA this week end (while every body is under the snow).
As soon the engine cools down, I'll ship the ECU to you. You can expect a full detailed report short after the re-flashed ECU has been re installed.
Phil
Threat: you better do a good job!

I'll give it my best shot. Give me a good description of what you are looking for.

ac

 

[longride]

Mine is getting flashed now by avc (I hope!). Full report after return.

 

[longride]

Well I got my flashed ECM back from Anthony (avc8130), and I feel qualified to tell of the results of the flash after about 300 miles of riding. I tested 'T' and 'S' modes in all kinds of roads, traffic, speeds and dirt.

First I have to say what the flash didn't do; It didn't turn the Tenere into a Hayabusa! ) It is still a Tenere, yet a much better one. ::008::

I got the basic unrestricted 'T' mode flash and the 'S' mode had the quicker throttle flashed in.

'T' mode is exactly how it should have come from te factory. No restrictions and the rear wheel dials up exactly what the throttle asks for. It is even, smooth power, and with the reduced engine braking along with being unrestricted, the engine doesn't fall on its face between shifts, so there is no lurching or bucking like before. It is VERY easy to ride smoothly, and with more power available in the lower gears, I now feel I can ride with agression even in 'T' mode. I certainly couldn't do that with the mushy throttle response of the previous 'T' mode.

'S' mode works great when attacking curves and accelerating between corners, or for fast filtering traffic. It changes the bike in a way that makes it easier to go fast with very little throttle twisting, and makes the bike more responsive and fun to ride fast. The only downside of 'S' mode is that is a bit snatchy at slow speeds and small throttle openings. It can give you a bit more than you ask for at those times with on/off throttle transitions, but if you are going slow and creeping around corners, or stuck in stop-and-go traffic, then use 'T' mode, or be very careful with throttle modulation.

From what I have determined, gas mileage hasn't been affected, and the flash overall is a fantastic bang-for-the-buck. For 100 smackers this is the way to go.

 

[avc8130]

George,

Thanks for the review!

Can you elaborate more on the low speed/low throttle snatchiness?

I'm constantly iterating the flash to try to improve it based on feedback.

ac

 

[longride]

George,

Thanks for the review!

Can you elaborate more on the low speed/low throttle snatchiness?

I'm constantly iterating the flash to try to improve it based on feedback.

ac

I would say the throttle response neds to be softened a bit between 1500 and 2000 rpm. When leaving a stop or coming back on the throttle between that rpm, the power 'hits' a bit abruptly in sport mode. I would keep the rest of the map as is, but the power hit between that range takes lots of throttle control. Not anything bad, but noticable.

Thanks for the good price and qick turnaround. Well worth the effort ans slow shipping!

 

[avc8130]

I would say the throttle response neds to be softened a bit between 1500 and 2000 rpm. When leaving a stop or coming back on the throttle between that rpm, the power 'hits' a bit abruptly in sport mode. I would keep the rest of the map as is, but the power hit between that range takes lots of throttle control. Not anything bad, but noticable.

Thanks for the good price and qick turnaround. Well worth the effort ans slow shipping!

Wow, that is some seriously low RPM. I'm not sure I've ever actually run my bike that low in 28k miles. LOL

I'll take a look.

In stock form the bike only allows very miniscule throttle openings in that area (usually about 2/3 behind your wrist).

Is this snatchiness just in 1st? I imagine so as there is no reason to be at 1500-2k in any other gear.

ac

 

[longride]

Well taking off from a stop and on off transitions always go through the 1500 to 2000 range. How else could you get to 6 grand?? ) It is stop and go that shows the snatchiness.