Pic by pic of a big get off-- Tenere down hard!!!

Don in Lodi

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Shower of sparks at rear wheel starting at 8... wow.

Poor bike. Shouldn't have been treated like a sport bike.
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I had the same crash with the almost the same setup, rumbux and jesse odysseys, and even if he was going too fast i blame the rumbux. From the time i heard and felt a scrape there was no time to react before the bike was on its side. On a bike without rumbux i have leaned and felt the pegs scrape and i adjust and move on. But with the rumbux the tires were easilymleveraged off of the ground too fast too react.
 

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I agree with Phil on this. Too hot, and a variable of other things like line choice. After driving this road moderately, after the numerous amount of turns, one can become lax in the techniques turn after turn after turn for the 300 or so times. This is alot, and only a professional can keep that focus that long and run the whole thing perfect. I do doubt the tires had any issue with losing control, with speed being more of the issue.
 

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I don't get it. You CAN ride this bike like a sportbike (with a stock skid plate). I've done it. Many times. A little body english goes a long way. A lot of body english and you can surprise your buddies on GSXRs and R6s. Turns separate the men from the boys. The guys asking "what can be learned?" and "what is proper technique?" really owe it to themselves to take a course like Total Control. This is motorcycling. If you don't have the right skill set and level of competence, it is VERY easy to wind up dead.

I'm not going to say this guy went into that turn "too hot". Honestly, I blame the Rumbux. The product should have a warning: "May reduce cornering clearance. It is the owner's responsibility to verify and adjust riding accordingly.". I am positive his tires are fine and had no trouble making it through the turn...until they weren't touching the ground any more. He probably could have trail-braked more, but maybe he already was, maybe he wasn't. Adding more trail braking would have further pushed the skid plate into the pavement.

I don't think the rider had ANY IDEA he was "too hot" until he was crashing. I'll bet the turn felt 100% confident until suddenly he was scraping and on the ground. Remember, we are looking at this frame by frame. In real time he goes from charging the corner to on the ground in an instant.

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And, this is so AC and I can smile, lets add in there that the bike was loaded and I would venture that there was a stock suspension on board which was wholly overwhelmed and incapable of maintaining the bike at the right attitude. This would further exacerbate the issue of ground clearance.

But, at the end of the day, the rider is responsible for understanding the vehicle and riding within that envelope established by the bike and the equipment that may contribute or detract from the stock riding envelope.


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...not good at all.
Swinging that big bad iron that far over with semi-knobbies can't be a good thing.
Ain't gonna end well - and it didn't---sadly
 

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In my comment I certainly didn't mean to imply that properly applied body English wouldn't have helped the situation. When riding hard in twisties I (out of habit) shift my weight toward the curve (years of sport riding) - my observation is that he wasn't leaning against the curve.

After further review I tend to agree that something (skid plate likely) touched down and chaos ensued....

Glad the rider is okay, and will likely study this more to learn. That's the best we can do here - along with hoping the rider is on the mend...
 

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Stop action pic's/video of the crash- Word is they stopped the damage estimate when it reached $16K and totaled the Tenere out...

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Firefight911 said:
And, this is so AC and I can smile, lets add in there that the bike was loaded and I would venture that there was a stock suspension on board which was wholly overwhelmed and incapable of maintaining the bike at the right attitude. This would further exacerbate the issue of ground clearance.

But, at the end of the day, the rider is responsible for understanding the vehicle and riding within that envelope established by the bike and the equipment that may contribute or detract from the stock riding envelope.


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I was withholding that comment. To load these bikes down and just expect the stock suspension to cope is crazy. If you want to rail it like a sportbike, give it suspension like a sport bike. It's amazing what ~$1500 can do to these bikes. I've seen guys blow $700 on seats, $1800 on luggage, $800 on lights, etc etc etc and then complain a proper shock is "too expensive".

The stop motion is good, but there is no way that event took 10 seconds to unfold.

I would LOVE to pick parts off that Tenere. Too bad it was totaled.

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avc8130 said:
The stop motion is good, but there is no way that event took 10 seconds to unfold.
Agreed, that's a 2 second death of a Ténéré at most!
 

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LOL, I remember something about stones and glass houses...
 
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