Pic by pic of a big get off-- Tenere down hard!!!

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No fun and ouch. Unfortunately, 100% rider error. Bad body positioning caused much more lean angle than necessary for the speed, etc.
 

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I don't see a horrible body position - I'm calling it simply in too hot on those tires with that much luggage. Could he have shifted his weight more to the inside? Sure. Doesn't look like he's really leaning against the bike to me though.

Glad he's okay so we can "Monday Morning Quarterback" his misfortune guilt-free...
 

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Firefight911 said:
No fun and ouch. Unfortunately, 100% rider error. Bad body positioning caused much more lean angle than necessary for the speed, etc.
OK, I would like to learn form this guys mistake. Specifically how would you change his body position?
 

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That skid plate/crash bar combo looks like it rubbed first, like way before the peg even.....


What combo is that?
 

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Firefight911 said:
No fun and ouch. Unfortunately, 100% rider error. Bad body positioning caused much more lean angle than necessary for the speed, etc.
And how fast was he going .
 

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If you reference to the elbow dragging thread, one might surmise that it would be more effective to shift your weight to the inside of the corner. Now, I would agree if the thought was "for this body position he went in to hot".
 

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MurphCO said:
That skid plate/crash bar combo looks like it rubbed first, like way before the peg even.....


What combo is that?
Looks like rumbux
 

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MurphCO said:
That skid plate/crash bar combo looks like it rubbed first, like way before the peg even.....


What combo is that?
Rumbux - hard to tell what touched first, but if the skidplate touched before the footpeg, that's a bad thing... the footpeg will warn you you're getting close to the limit but flex up, the skidplate is fixed to the frame...
 

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limey said:
And how fast was he going .
Too fast for the conditions. That's all conditions combined. Line, body positioning, speed, etc. all culminated with the off.

If you are cornering and realize you are running wide or running out of ground clearance the first thing you never do is close the throttle. You need to keep the suspension composed and balanced. Stop accelerating but do not start decelerating. You then have to force your eyes as far through the corner to where you want to go and follow up with weighting of the pegs and getting your body positioning moved forward and inboard to the corner. This does not mean you are going ricky racer but it does mean you need to move inboard with your weight to start to get the back more upright. Stay as light on the bars as possible through all of this and you will have a much better chance of getting through the corner.

I'm not here lambasting anyone. But, I am of the firm belief that right, wrong, or indifferent, we all have an opportunity to learn from this regardless of your skill level or thought as to whether this could happen to you or not.

If you ride, you have to be a student of the sport starting on day one and only ending when you pass from this life.


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I gotta throw my .25 in. I think the guy was coming in too hot. If he would have stood it up at the beginning and bled speed off, he might have made it. Also the camera man usually does not stay on a bike that long. 3 or 4 frames and he's done. He knew the guy was too way too fast in the beginning. I think he is really lucky the front wheel did not hook up.

It all happens so fast, your lucky to come out unhurt.
 

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I agree, he came in too hot, especially for the shinko's that are on there. I owned 3 sets, and would never trust them in that way. When the hard parts rub the pavement, it's bound to end badly. Glad the rider was not hurt.
 

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I like my boxes but I don't ride my S10 like I did my sport bikes.
Expensive lesson glad he is alright. Kinda embarrassing glad I don't crash in front of cameras.
 

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Too much speed and not enough clearance. He could have possibly pulled it off if he had just scraped the center stand and bash plate...BUT when he buried the right (metal) pannier deep in the pavement he was done.
 

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Obviously too hot for the conditions, as has been said, and I would agree with others that the choices here are to pull up and brake (and then perhaps re-enter the turn when he approached the center line), or slide body weight to the inside further (he is already leaning his upper body pretty well you can see from the arm position, and he is already looking through the turn properly).

What I notice is in frame 8, you clearly see sparks from the area of the foot peg or skid plate. Likely the side cases have also made ground contact. However the wheels have not levered off the ground yet. Never the less, it appears the front wheel is "crumpling".... looks canted to the right to me. It might be that this is the point of loss of control here rather than when the wheels lose ground contact.
 

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I am not certain but I am thinking this turn is the 3rd double apex turn from the direction he is coming which would be from the NC side and I believe they call this particular turn Brake or Bust at the 5.3 mile marker from the N.C. line. I love riding this road have been riding it for around 20 years long before it was a hot spot of activity it is today.
 

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dcstrom said:
Rumbux - hard to tell what touched first, but if the skidplate touched before the footpeg, that's a bad thing... the footpeg will warn you you're getting close to the limit but flex up, the skidplate is fixed to the frame...

The front wheel lifted from #8 to #9, so the skidplate contacted first. The boxes would lift the rear wheel, which can be seen in later shots.


He rode it sitting up in the chair and could've gotten more angle by shifting his butt into the turn. Your center of mass is near your belly button and of the 800 pounds of you (if 200#) & bike, you the rider are nearly a quarter. You can make a difference.


Glad he's OK, but I'll bet every muscle was screaming for the rest of the week!
 
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