New Headlight Option: LED H7?

[hANNAbONE]

Man, those H7's look nice but unless we remove the plastic covers they are not going to work. Even if they fit in there with the covers installed, which I 'm not sure they will, the fan needs air to cool them.

I was under the assumption that LED's ran cooler than halogen lights.

what am I missing??

 

[Wanderer]

Howdy,
I've looked at other LED conversions and they all have some type of fan cooling. I'm guessing it's for the "power supply" more so than the bulbs. One showed the fan mounted on the controller/power supply completely detached from the bulbs. This one if it works well is extremely more compact then the other units I've looked at.
Later,
Norm

 

[creggur]

I'm just wondering who is going to be the $100 guinea pig to find out if these work...

 

[Roge]

Thats probably the question we all want answered, "Do the H7 ones fit behind the covers on a S10?"

 

[S_Palmer]

I'm just wondering who is going to be the $100 guinea pig to find out if these work...

OK, I bit the bullet and ordered them, they arrived in good shape yesterday and I installed them (almost) last night.

The units appear to be good quality and well built, I know nothing about LED components I just talking general appearance.

Install required removing the headlight assembly from the front. They could be installed from the back but I found it easier to
get it out in the open with some room to work. I tried to remove 4 fingers with some roofing metal a few years ago, someone
with a little more dexterity may be able to get them in there from the back.

There is a small disk about 1/4 in thick and about 1in in diameter built into the wire that does not show in the pic on the
website, it was no problem as it tucked into the housing.

The Bad: the rear cover will not go on with the LED light installed it lacks about 1/4 in of closing.

Results: The LEDs produce a white light similar to HID, compared to OEM the beam is softer and less focused, and didn't seem
to be any brighter. It does cover a wider area, could be a plus in deer country.
I have installed HID in 2 other bikes on one it made a small improvement, the other was nite and day improvement, the difference was in the reflector. I suspect LED retrofits will be similar, results will vary from bike to bike.

I took photos, the ones with dark blue sky were OEM, it wasn't quite fully dark. The fence is about 100 ft away.

In the end I removed them and reinstalled the OEM lights, I liked the more focused beam of the OEM and couldn't really
tell much if any improvement in how far they would reach out.

IN the second set of pics (LED) the front of the bike was slightly higher accounting for some of the diff in the pics.

 

[OX-34]

I installed some very similar in my scooter. 1850Lm per 'bulb'.

I'm serious when I say scooter. A Piaggio Xevo 250 running twin H7s - one for high beam, one for low beam. It seems a bit of overkill, but I've run over 1350 miles in a day on that little fella, so I wanted some more output for the 12 or so hours of dark.

What I found was that the light output is split. Like the twin suns of Tatooine split. When I adjusted the main body of the light to be similar to the OEM pattern, I was also shining a second 'beam' up into the trees. Looking at the design of the 'bulb' there is one Cree LED on each side of a central divider. It seems that the divider is the cause of the split beams, or rather that each LED only lights half of the reflector.

Leaned over in the twisties the light projects very well 'around' the corner and I'm amazed, but nobody has flashed me. I guess the second beam is just pointed too steeply to dazzle oncoming traffic.

I'll be attempting to make a spacer from a big washer or something to see if I can turn the high beam 'bulb' 90 degrees to get both beams onto the tarmac for kangaroo spotting duties and leave the low beam for around town and the twisties.

Oh, the power of the light output itself is a spectacular improvement over any bike's stock H7 ::008::

 

[avc8130]

What about removing the fan cover? Will that buy enough space to squeak in behind the stock covers?

http://advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=24338087&postcount=779

ac

 

[OX-34]

That certainly saves some space by reducing the bulk.

Drilling the stock cover like that ZX-10 rider did still exposes the electrics to water.

The success of the 'tupperware' experiment from an earlier post is encouraging - use the fan to move air around the whole headlight assembly's nooks and crannies.

 

[avc8130]

That certainly saves some space by reducing the bulk.

Drilling the stock cover like that ZX-10 rider did still exposes the electrics to water.

The success of the 'tupperware' experiment from an earlier post is encouraging - use the fan to move air around the whole headlight assembly's nooks and crannies.

Headlights aren't "sealed". Generally there are vents.

My LED bulb on my WR250R is just hanging out there exposed in the back. So far so good splashing through mud puddles.

The bulbs come with an 18 month warranty and I have personally spoken to the owner of the company. I am confident that IF you did have an issue, he'd have your back.

ac

 

[scott123007]

I installed some very similar in my scooter. 1850Lm per 'bulb'.

I'm serious when I say scooter. A Piaggio Xevo 250 running twin H7s - one for high beam, one for low beam. It seems a bit of overkill, but I've run over 1650 miles in a day on that little fella, so I wanted some more output for the 12 or so hours of dark.

What I found was that the light output is split. Like the twin suns of Tatooine split. When I adjusted the main body of the light to be similar to the OEM pattern, I was also shining a second 'beam' up into the trees. Looking at the design of the 'bulb' there is one Cree LED on each side of a central divider. It seems that the divider is the cause of the split beams, or rather that each LED only lights half of the reflector.

Leaned over in the twisties the light projects very well 'around' the corner and I'm amazed, but nobody has flashed me. I guess the second beam is just pointed too steeply to dazzle oncoming traffic.

I'll be attempting to make a spacer from a big washer or something to see if I can turn the high beam 'bulb' 90 degrees to get both beams onto the tarmac for kangaroo spotting duties and leave the low beam for around town and the twisties.

Oh, the power of the light output itself is a spectacular improvement over any bike's stock H7 ::008::

Screw the lightbulbs...
You averaged almost 70 mph for 24 hrs straight on a 250cc scooter!!!??

 

[OX-34]

Screw the lightbulbs...
You averaged almost 70 mph for 24 hrs straight on a 250cc scooter!!!??

OOps, crucial metric conversion error. :'(

2201km = 1367 miles, not 1667miles.

So only 57 miles an hour for 24 hours on my scooter. ::26::

 

[Don in Lodi]

I took photos, the ones with dark blue sky were OEM, it wasn't quite fully dark. The fence is about 100 ft away.

In the end I removed them and reinstalled the OEM lights, I liked the more focused beam of the OEM and couldn't really
tell much if any improvement in how far they would reach out.

IN the second set of pics (LED) the front of the bike was slightly higher accounting for some of the diff in the pics.

I like the general flood affect in that highbeam shot. That's how I have my aux lights set up with a diffuser lens. That is cheaper than aux lights. Not sure of the whole cooler fan thing. LED are generally cooler...

 

[mingo]

To revive this thread, now that my bike is parked for the winter, I installed the Cyclops LED H7 2400 lumen bulbs in the SuperTen's headlight housing and was able to put the bulb covers back on. Here's how:


1. Remove stock bulbs


2. Remove the fan shroud on the back of the LED bulb


3. Remove H7 adapter ring off the LED bulb and install in the back of the stock bulb mounting position and then secure with spring wire that kept the stock bulb in place


4. Plug the 2 leads from the LED bulb into the bike's H7 bulb plug; the ground on the LED bulb is green, the ground on the bike's harness is brown.


5. Now gently push the bulb connector into the headlight housing. I was able to slip it in at the 9 o'clock position and then I slipped the round disc at the 6 o'clock position


6. Install the LED bulb by paying careful attention the plastic tabs that need to line up with the slotted tabs on the adapter ring installed in step 1. Now twist into place and you will feel the bulb click into the adapter ring.


7. Install the headlight covers. Done.

I never removed the headlight from the bike, I just had a bright light illuminating my work area.

 

[twinrider]

Someone on advrider did an indepth review of a Cyclops H4 LED. His basic conclusion was that although it was bright, it lacked the requisite focus to be usable on public roads. He reckons it might be fine for offroad only dirt bikes though.