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Installed a manual CCT into a customers bike the otherday. The install was easy and set up was easy. I fired it up, and was surprised that there was NO chain noise at all. I thought the new 14 was better than the original but not compared to the manual. I let the motor worm up to about 165 and revved it a bit to make sure I didn't hear the 'whine'. Nope, smooooth.
I thought my 2014 CCT was so much better than the 12 unit, well the manual is SO much better than the 14 unit.
Ok, question... The customer sent me the ebay unit. And for all practical reasons it's a "quality" unit. But I'm a bit strange and noticed a few things that I would like to change to that unit. Until I came across the Graves Motorsport R1 manual CCT. I know the mechanical aspects of this unit should work. But I'm a bit concerned on there oil by pass that is machined into the back side of the graves unit. The gasket should block off the oil passage that needs to be blocked but with the little oil passage machined into the face it looks like it will let the oil pass by. Can another engineer type person confirm my thoughts. The ebay unit for the Tenere says its for the R1. I guess that's standard. Just trying to confirm the Graves unit will work on the tenere.
After fireing up the customers bike I'm strongly considering the manual now. I guess I'm slow to the party. Lol
I think I came across what I might be looking for on the R1 forums. Here is a bit more info:
Cost VS Quality
Compare our product to the competitions product and the cost
Graves Product
Adjustment shaft is made of aerospace quality steel machined to a 1.0 threads per millimeter allowing the tuner to adjust the tension on the chain to an exact specification = less friction and consistent cam timing = more power.
The Competitors shaft
Shaft is made of mild steel all thread material with SAE course thread
Graves Cam Chain Body
Designed to support the shaft as close to the cam chain running block as possible for maximum shaft support and minimum shaft flex. The body is machined to allow the exact amount of oil exiting the body to minimize over oiling of the valve train area at high rpm. All of this = more power, accurate cam timing and less friction.
The Competitors Body
Designed to hold the shaft and plugs the oil relief hole
Graves’s lock nut
Made of 7075 T651 and hard anodized for a reliable fit, strong threads, light weight and great looks
The competitor’s nut
Course thread steel nut
You can compare the price but you cannot compare the quality. Take both of these to your engine builder and ask them which one they would install in your motor when their reputation is on the line!
I thought my 2014 CCT was so much better than the 12 unit, well the manual is SO much better than the 14 unit.
Ok, question... The customer sent me the ebay unit. And for all practical reasons it's a "quality" unit. But I'm a bit strange and noticed a few things that I would like to change to that unit. Until I came across the Graves Motorsport R1 manual CCT. I know the mechanical aspects of this unit should work. But I'm a bit concerned on there oil by pass that is machined into the back side of the graves unit. The gasket should block off the oil passage that needs to be blocked but with the little oil passage machined into the face it looks like it will let the oil pass by. Can another engineer type person confirm my thoughts. The ebay unit for the Tenere says its for the R1. I guess that's standard. Just trying to confirm the Graves unit will work on the tenere.
After fireing up the customers bike I'm strongly considering the manual now. I guess I'm slow to the party. Lol
I think I came across what I might be looking for on the R1 forums. Here is a bit more info:
Cost VS Quality
Compare our product to the competitions product and the cost
Graves Product
Adjustment shaft is made of aerospace quality steel machined to a 1.0 threads per millimeter allowing the tuner to adjust the tension on the chain to an exact specification = less friction and consistent cam timing = more power.
The Competitors shaft
Shaft is made of mild steel all thread material with SAE course thread
Graves Cam Chain Body
Designed to support the shaft as close to the cam chain running block as possible for maximum shaft support and minimum shaft flex. The body is machined to allow the exact amount of oil exiting the body to minimize over oiling of the valve train area at high rpm. All of this = more power, accurate cam timing and less friction.
The Competitors Body
Designed to hold the shaft and plugs the oil relief hole
Graves’s lock nut
Made of 7075 T651 and hard anodized for a reliable fit, strong threads, light weight and great looks
The competitor’s nut
Course thread steel nut
You can compare the price but you cannot compare the quality. Take both of these to your engine builder and ask them which one they would install in your motor when their reputation is on the line!