patrickg450
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talked to my dealer today, no recall based off my VIN.
Let's hope they don't bring out a 'highside burgundy' ::007::Ramseybella said:Sort of like Yamaha using the name Impact Blue for the Blue Tenere..
Umm, check back next week.patrickg450 said:talked to my dealer today, no recall based off my VIN.
No surprise there, as the supposed recall doesn't even get published until Feb 1.patrickg450 said:talked to my dealer today, no recall based off my VIN.
or maybe February 5th, since that's when the alleged recall notice says in reply #8 says the recall will start.SPX said:No surprise there, as the supposed recall doesn't even get published until Feb 1.
Again, perhaps the wire gauge is a bit less than is should be in this critical path. Resistance is heat. Wish I had time to measure the voltage drop....I'll bet a beer more copper would help here.jbrown said:Of course, if you have the higher capacity battery and experience a hard start situation, a fire may come sooner!
Wire fires happen, certainly this could have been one. Without a proper means of analysis you suggest someone lit their bike on fire and lied about it.....not cool.RonH said:bullsheet on the hard start fire scenerio.
That may be true, but I don't see how an ECU change can address that, if indeed that's going to be the fix. I guess Yamaha could incorporate some kind of timer software into the ECU that would limit cranking time with a forced "cool off" period between attempts.gaps said:Again, perhaps the wire gauge is a bit less than is should be in this critical path. Resistance is heat. Wish I had time to measure the voltage drop....I'll bet a beer more copper would help here.
Right now, who knows what happened... OK, Yamaha might know.gaps said:Wire fires happen, certainly this could have been one. Without a proper means of analysis you suggest someone lit their bike on fire and lied about it.....not cool.
There is a known problem that can result in a flooded condition if you interrupt a cold start sequence. Going to WOT can usually get the bike started after such a flooded condition. Excessive cranking at WOT in an effort to start the bike with a flooded condition can lead to overloaded electrical components or wiring. Reprogram the ECU to eliminate the bug that causes this flooded condition so that you can interrupt a cold start and not have a flooded condition ( just as I have been able to do with every other fuel injected vehicle that I have owned thru the years) and you eliminate the root cause.WJBertrand said:That may be true, but I don't see how an ECU change can address that, if indeed that's going to be the fix. I guess Yamaha could incorporate some kind of timer software into the ECU that would limit cranking time with a forced "cool off" period between attempts.
This reminds me of my old Yamaha XS750 Triple. I learned to not so much as breathe on the throttle when cold starting. If I did the battery would run flat before I could get it started. That bike still had a kick starter though, so I think the electric starting systems were less robust in those days. To really avoid cold start problems, if it were the first start of the day or after a few days, I used the kick start only.Juan said:Am I imagining things?
I had only one Hard Start in the past, and I admit it was my fault (explained in another thread). To avoid an accidental Hard Start I got into the habit of not releasing the starter switch before the engine has properly kicked into life. This has worked well.
When starting a cold engine it is important not to turn the throttle at all as this could induce flooding. Recently, as an added precaution to avoid a Hard Start I ensure that I do not have my hand on the throttle when pressing the starter switch. This procedure seems to have improved starting and the engine kicks to life easier - or am I imagining things? Perhaps when I used to push the starter switch with my hand on the throttle, the thumb push used to rotate my hand on the throttle ever so slightly?
Once you've encountered the hard start, the ECU is no longer part of the problem. Fuel has wet down the cylinder walls, reducing compression, and the plugs are fouled with fuel. I'd hesitate to use the starter fluid in the manner you are suggesting. It is not intended to be sprayed directly into the combustion chamber thru spark plug holes. Combustion is about the correct air/fuel ratio. Spraying starting fluid directly into the combustion chamber runs several risks, including creating the flooded condition again and contaminating your oil even more.evanqueen said:Guys does disconnecting the battery reset the ECU.?
I AM IN THE MIDDLE OF MY FIRST HARD START ISSUE. TRIED THE WOT BUT NO SUCCESS, GOING TO PULL #4 fuse replace plugs and with plugs out and fuse out turn it over enough to dry out cylinder. Shoot a drop of starter fluid in replace plugs and fusehook to car battery as an aid and see if this fixes it. Any advice is more than welcome. Thanks in advance. By the way I have new gas that's for sure good in tank
I absolutely agree.Dogdaze said:I have read lots on posts on this site, I still find it perplexing to say the least, I am at odds at how a FI engine gets flooded in the first place (I know it does) and to be honest I also find it unacceptable that today these failures happen, what if, God forbid, this happens out in the middle of nowhere.......................