Is this S10 a good deal?

[fmscott2]

Hi,

I'm very interested in selling my Yamaha FZ6 and moving on to a Super Tenere. I saw a listing for a 2012 Super Tenere with 25,000 miles for $8,995 USD. It's at a dealer and comes with some farkles like side hard cases, crash bars, LED light bar, skid plate, Two Brothers exhaust, headlight guard, and a windscreen lip.

Is that a good deal? What kind of issues start to happen around 25k miles? Would it need a valve adjustment around 26k (like my FZ6)? Other 2012 S10s are over the $10k mark.

Thanks,
Mac

 

[snakebitten]

Just have em agree to the 24k & 26k mile service (combined) and you have a sweet ride for a very nice price!

24k service is normal service
26k service is valve clearance check.

Good luck.

 

[BaldKnob]

That is a smokin' hot deal, especially if they check the valves for you. If not, still not a deal breaker. Many sources around to assist you with the check. I wouldn't be concerned about the mileage but the Two Bros pipes are known to unravel if they are carbon fiber.

 

[fmscott2]

It's not the carbon fiber exhaust, it's stainless steel.

Do you think the dealer has done the 24k mile service if it's at 25k now?

 

[Ramseybella]

Have him do the service then buy it!!
Any Warranty?

 

[FDhog]

It's not the carbon fiber exhaust, it's stainless steel.

Do you think the dealer has done the 24k mile service if it's at 25k now?

If he did, he should have the paperwork.

 

[creggur]

It's not the carbon fiber exhaust, it's stainless steel.

Do you think the dealer has done the 24k mile service if it's at 25k now?

Well, we do know for a fact that 25k on this engine is nothing - assuming it's been reasonably maintained - I'd say you've got no worries there.

How does the rest of the bike look?
Has it been down? (Not a few minor drops - it's built for that) I mean does it look as if it's been in a major wham-bang?
Are there maintenance records? Not a deal-breaker, but it would answer a lot of your questions.
Can you test ride to get a "feel" for if anything is "off"?


On face value I wouldn't be afraid of this bike, even if I had to cover the valve check (assuming the price was reasonable) - but it never hurts to ask a few questions...you might like what you find out. And if you can work the valve-check into the deal...Bonus!

Good luck!

 

[dragonflyTN]

For comparison: I paid $10,500 last October for a 2012 with 5,800 miles with most of the farkles you mention and few different ones. This was a private party deal.

 

[Sckill]

Is $8995 an out the door price? It seems like a good deal with the included accessories and luggage, but would definitely be better if you can get the next service included. For reference, I paid $10k for my 2012 S10 from a local seller with only 938 miles, altrider crash bars, and a moose skid plate. I think I got lucky, but point is that there will be good deals out there.

 

[Ramseybella]

I paid 12k with 2k miles on it extras are as follows Woody's wheels Altrider stainless crash bars, Wasp Works Wind screen adjuster and 4 years of YES warranty.
Some one told me I paid to much.

 

[snakebitten]

Repeat: The Tenere is worth every penny of U.S. msrp. So seriously, hard to get a bad deal. And the used market is just outrageously great values. Pre-farkled? Just crazy.

You do know 10,000 miles is barely broke in? Literally.

 

[Ramseybella]

Repeat: The Tenere is worth every penny of U.S. msrp. So seriously, hard to get a bad deal. And the used market is just outrageously great values. Pre-farkled? Just crazy.

You do know 10,000 miles is barely broke in? Literally.

Mine hit the 10k few weeks ago, time fly's when your having fun!

 

[fmscott2]

So it sounds like it's a good deal then. The bike is for sale at a BMW/Triumph dealer, so I don't know if they can do a full 24k service. That's my big question at the moment, is if the bike had the 24k service done already.

Since it's for sale at a BMW dealer, they probably want to get it out of their showroom. What price should I offer them right off the bat? I was going to say at least $1000 off the asking price, so $7995. Is that low enough? I haven't ever hagggled on a bike before. I don't want to offend them with a lowball offer, but I'm sure theres still some wiggle room in their price.

By the way, I'm largely interested in this bike because of the safety features it offers over my FZ6. How well does the ABS system work? What about the traction control? I'm 6'-1" with about a 30" inseam. Could I flat foot this bike with the seat adjusted down?

 

[BaldKnob]

So it sounds like it's a good deal then. The bike is for sale at a BMW/Triumph dealer, so I don't know if they can do a full 24k service. That's my big question at the moment, is if the bike had the 24k service done already.

Since it's for sale at a BMW dealer, they probably want to get it out of their showroom. What price should I offer them right off the bat? I was going to say at least $1000 off the asking price, so $7995. Is that low enough? I haven't ever hagggled on a bike before. I don't want to offend them with a lowball offer, but I'm sure theres still some wiggle room in their price.

By the way, I'm largely interested in this bike because of the safety features it offers over my FZ6. How well does the ABS system work? What about the traction control? I'm 6'-1" with about a 30" inseam. Could I flat foot this bike with the seat adjusted down?

Scott, ask if they have any service records. I would not let them touch it mechanically. If no records, take it somewhere or do it yourself.

Cash talks and 8G's may do the trick but that is a lowball offer.

I'm 5'8" and a 30" inseam. With the seat in low position, I have the balls of my feet down in a comfortable place. I usually go to one side or the other and have one foot flat.

The ABS works great. You can grab a big handful of front brake before any intervention happens and when it does, the system cycles very quickly. The rear brake will activate ABS almost immediately, especially offroad. TC 1 intervenes with any wheelspin or front wheel lift. TC 2 allows a little rear wheel slip but no wheelies and TC off is giddyup.

 

[MensaDropout]

Since it's for sale at a BMW dealer, they probably want to get it out of their showroom. What price should I offer them right off the bat? I was going to say at least $1000 off the asking price, so $7995. Is that low enough? I haven't ever hagggled on a bike before. I don't want to offend them with a lowball offer, but I'm sure theres still some wiggle room in their price.

By the way, I'm largely interested in this bike because of the safety features it offers over my FZ6. How well does the ABS system work? What about the traction control? I'm 6'-1" with about a 30" inseam. Could I flat foot this bike with the seat adjusted down?

I just picked up a '13, new. I'm 5'9" and have 30" inseam - I can't flat foot it. It was actually one of my big hesitations. It's a heavy bike to hold up on tippy toes. That said, I love it, and no regrets. I did buy the crash bars the next day though... just in case I put my foot down on a slippery patch.

I also wanted the safety stuff... And I'm loving the TC - effective and unobtrusive. The linked braking rocks, but you've got to retrain yourself not to start with the rear brake to load the front since it disengages the link. I haven't had a chance to play with the ABS yet.

As for price, it's February. I'd start low... I got mine, new, for $13,500 out the door (tax, title, prep, etc., included.) For a new bike that retails at $14,790 I'm thrilled. Be aggressive, and let them call you back. It may take a few days to get the best deal - but, the odds of someone else buying it out from under you are pretty slim. I'd probably start a bit under $7k if they're asking $8k. You can always come up. Do the dance, let them call, tell them you're still waffling on whether to come up, add a few hundred to your initial offer. Let them call back again and I bet you get a good price.

Let us know how it goes!

 

[jrb_nw]

The traction control works very well and saved my ass big time when I got a little foolish last year. Passing a couple cars in an area I shouldn't have, on the gas hard crossed centerline with oncoming not far off. Hit dirt on the center line and the rear lost traction briefly, started to slide to the left but that blessed TC caught it and just like that it was under control again and I was past the cars and gone. Shaken but not stirred.

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[creggur]

The traction control works very well and saved my ass big time when I got a little foolish last year. Passing a couple cars in an area I shouldn't have, on the gas hard crossed centerline with oncoming not far off. Hit dirt on the center line and the rear lost traction briefly, started to slide to the left but that blessed TC caught it and just like that it was under control again and I was past the cars and gone. Shaken but not stirred.

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This is a very similar situation in which the ABS saved my ass last year.

 

[scott123007]

. I'd probably start a bit under $7k if they're asking $8k. You can always come up. Do the dance, let them call, tell them you're still waffling on whether to come up, add a few hundred to your initial offer. Let them call back again and I bet you get a good price.

Let us know how it goes!

Well they're asking 9 not 8, so maybe 8 would be a good starting price. These aren't cars that there's a couple of grand to fudge with.

Regardless, as much as we like to get the best deal, every time a killer one is made, it sets a new low benchmark for what our bike can sell for.

 

[creggur]

Well they're asking 9 not 8, so maybe 8 would be a good starting price. These aren't cars that there's a couple of grand to fudge with.

Regardless, as much as we like to get the best deal, every time a killer one is made, it sets a new low benchmark for what our bike can sell for.

This doesn't mean someone should pay more than the dealer is willing to accept to make the deal.

And there's no such thing as "insulting" a dealer during a negotiation. There's absolutely no emotion involved at all. Not one bit, piece, nor iota...it's a business transaction pure-and-simple.

On a used bike, much like a used car, you have no idea how much room they have to fudge with. Test for the lowest and make your best deal. I GUARANTEE they're testing for the highest to start.

(15 years in the car biz tells me so)

 

[MensaDropout]

Well they're asking 9 not 8, so maybe 8 would be a good starting price. These aren't cars that there's a couple of grand to fudge with.

Regardless, as much as we like to get the best deal, every time a killer one is made, it sets a new low benchmark for what our bike can sell for.

Good catch. Sorry, long night with a toddler... Probably shouldn't have been talking to anyone this morning, much less reading and typing.

But, pricewise, the dealer has a price that they'll take. No one is beating them up and taking it for less than they want to sell at. The goal is always to find that true price - why pay more than they are willing to take? The idea of "it's best for the industry...," "it's best for the resale value...," or similar arguments only hold up if everyone is willing to forgo what's in their immediate best interest for an abstract, long term, benefit that may never be realized.

Personally, the part that drives me nuts is that me and the dealer both know what we're going to end up at and whether we'll make a deal or not... but, you have to play the game and everyone's time is wasted. I've been trying to find some enjoyment in it lately, but it still feels silly.

Oh, and honestly, this time of year cash flow can be more important than markup. It makes sense to always try to get the best deal, and let the seller decide what they need to get out of something.