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creggur

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Danno said:
Thank you for the great replies. I haven't given up on the ST by a long shot. I will do whatever it takes to get it to work for me. I really enjoy this bike and the engine is fantastic. However, the guys on the Victory's are having no problem keeping up with me when it comes to acceleration. Corners are another story and I see them being a bit tentative going into them. I am no great motorcycle rider myself and I found myself being what I call sloppy while riding yesterday. Obviously I need to pay better attention to what I am doing. I wasn't dangerous but I wasn't elegant either. I do find myself wanting to get out and ride this bike. My KLR had 900 miles on it when sold 8 months ago. It took me over 2 years to put that 900 miles on the ODO. I already have over 550 miles on the ST in the last 3 weeks.
Oh you are in for a treat... After about 1000 miles the suspension settles and you will be charging in. And if you think the engine is fantastic now - at about 4000 miles it's going to amaze you - just gets smoother and stronger...
 

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Danno said:
Have a few items I will want to add as soon as my wife gets over the shock of me buying a motorcycle again.

Ha! my wife had a hard time with this one for me as well. she didn't quite understand why I wanted to trade my perfectly good 2010 KTM Adventure 990. But after I started spending more time with her rather than in the garage wrenching on the KTM she was more understanding.
 

bikerdoc

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+1 on the helmet. Different helmet designs play a significant role in the buffeting and the amount of noise experienced. I have several different helmets, Nolan N43 Air, HJC IS-Max, HJC IS-Multi, two Shark Evoline 2's, and many different rides (couple of Suzuki Burgman Exec's AN650's K3 & K7, BMW K1, Jetmax, S10, Dragstar Classic). Each of the helmets in combination with each of the rides provides varying amounts of buffeting and wind noise, all compounded by variables such as the adjustment to both the configuration of the modular helmets versus adjustability of each bikes' screen heights. I found that wearing a Shark Evoline series 2 (with chin bar in the aft position), when riding my AN650K7 with the wind screen in the lowest setting which results in a little more wind noise and air in the face (at the eye-line) compared to my HJC IS-Multi with chin guard removed. In this instance I either lower my clear face shield or sun visor, otherwise I raise the wind screen about 1-2cm. If the screen is non-adjustable as it is on the AN650K3 then lowering the Shark Evoline series 2 clear face shield one notch, and the wind blast into the eyes is avoided. I prefer to ride with face shield up provided the air is clear/clean, as long as I have a screen on the bike. FWIW Experimentation was the deciding factor for me.

Sounds like some experimentation is in order. First try out a different helmet if feasible before trying out a different screen or attachments.
YMMV.
 

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I have the Cal Sci X-Large and Shorty windshields. I use the shorty in the summer because it gives lots of airflow but less buffetting than the stock windshield, and I use the X-Large in the winter or on a longer trip.

http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/Tenereprod.html

As far as the victory guys keeping up acceleration wise, I think they've only got the Tenere beat on the low torque output. I could see them keeping up well out of the gate but if you twist that throttle and throw any curves in there it should be a matter of "CYA". The out of the gate comment assumes they aren't on they fully loaded bagger versions that weigh 8-900lbs.

Either way, I don't think many of us bought the Tenere because it was sold as a rocket(even though mine feels like one ::26::), but more so for its varies uses and capabilities in touring and off-roading.
 

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Danno said:
Hi Tallgears. Thanks for the information. I'm planning on getting the Rox risers and extended lines from Jaxon. I put a Madstad bracket on but have yet to find the sweet spot. Im getting lots of wind noise. I did a 248 mile ride today and it wasn't bad but I'm sure it could be better for my old fart body. My two buddies on their Victory's seemed to be quite comfortable.
here's my $0.02
The windscreen and buffetting will be the biggest issue to sort out on the bike. I currently have a madstadd type (the australian jobbie from Greg), and a mra vario screen, good mix,I doubt all turbulance and wind noise can be eliminated, unless you go with a barn door, that you need to look through.
I'm 5'9"
I have Rox risers (1.75", and renthal bars) I do not have cable or brake line issues. You may have problems with the stock bar though.

Victory VS Tenere....the guys on the victory sit a lot lower down, and closer to the shield, so they will have less noise and turbulence no doubt. I have never ridden one, so I cannot comment, but, the ST with it's small issues is a fantastic bike, on road, or off road, and that's where it shines, along with it's compromises. 550 miles is not enough to make a good decision, ride the bike, fine tune one thing at a time, you will most likely get to the point where you will love the bike, but i'm biased.
 

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As suggested I do need to ride the bike more and also use some earplugs. I'm not getting a lot of buffeting but the wind noise is pretty bad. Additionally I find I am leaned forward a bit and that is hurting my hands and wrists. So yes, I need to work on getting the bike setup for me. The Victory is certainly a completely different riding experience and one I've not tried except for a short test drive. I've never thought of myself as a cruiser kind of guy but sometimes I need to get in tune with what my body is trying to tell me. We'll see how it goes. Right now I have to go out in the garage and install the Grip Puppies that arrived today. :D
 

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Danno said:
As suggested I do need to ride the bike more and also use some earplugs. I'm not getting a lot of buffeting but the wind noise is pretty bad. Additionally I find I am leaned forward a bit and that is hurting my hands and wrists. So yes, I need to work on getting the bike setup for me. The Victory is certainly a completely different riding experience and one I've not tried except for a short test drive. I've never thought of myself as a cruiser kind of guy but sometimes I need to get in tune with what my body is trying to tell me. We'll see how it goes. Right now I have to go out in the garage and install the Grip Puppies that arrived today. :D
Yeah.. I find that ear plugs fixed all my complaints about wind noise :D
 

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I suspect your body is trying to tell you those handle bars suck.

Maybe not too high or too low.
Maybe not too for forward or back either.
But no way your body thinks that crazy severe sweep angle is right.

There is a spreadsheet around here somewhere with every known handlebar's dimensions in the civilized world. And the sweep dimension on the oem handlebars won it the distinction of being the first, or last, handlebar in the impressive list. Depending on your sort order. :)

Yep, no matter how fine the engineering of this machine, or any other, ergos require adjustments. Unlike a car or truck with 7 way adjustable seats, a bike is is a crap shoot for fitting a riders shape and size.

Yamaha built this bike to fit one person perfectly. (I think it was RonH) ;)
I haven't met him. But I know we don't "match"

Not even close.
 
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