Handle Bar Vibration

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I don't know if it's my bike or everyone is experiencing buzzing in the throttle side! Mine is rock solid on the clutch side and puts my hand to sleep on the right. I have checked all the normal stuff loose screws and bolts. The counter weight is snug, I don't know what to do next but it needs to go away soon!
 

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WRW9751 said:
I don't know if it's my bike or everyone is experiencing buzzing in the throttle side! Mine is rock solid on the clutch side and puts my hand to sleep on the right. I have checked all the normal stuff loose screws and bolts. The counter weight is snug, I don't know what to do next but it needs to go away soon!
I notice the same symptom... gonna try a home-made isulating foam roll-around and test it out before I purchase a grip puppie or similar. Also considering the Tusk handlebar riser, for 20 bones, seems like a reasonable option????

any others?
 

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I had the opposite issue, slight buzzing on the clutch side. Solution is really not to hold on so tightly :-* i have used grip puppies before and they work great. I think the issue is that the grips on the S10 are made of really hard rubber and this translates the vibration to your hand efficiently. So, changing out the grips to the BMW touring grips that many folks like may also do the trick. Lastly, many have told me that the vibrations decrease with miles on this bike; so could just wait before investing in a solution. I only have 150 miles on the S10, so not a real expert. You know what they say about free advice.... ::021::
 

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Oftentimes riders think the throttle side is vibrating more than the clutch side because they tend to grip it tighter than the clutch side. This is why a throttle-rocker or similar helps. Not saying you are imaging things - just saying......
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JRTEN said:
So, changing out the grips to the BMW touring grips that many folks like may also do the trick.
+ 1 on the BMW grips!!
 

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I would really like to think that just holding on to tightly would fix it. But if you simply lay your hands flat on the grip while riding and lightly touch both sides with your fingers on the levers, it's very noticeable. I have and do use a rocker. I've got a set of OEM heated grips in the box, I may look into replacing those grips with BMW grips. I currently own 10 motorcycles and been riding more than 40 years.
 

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Mine had more vibes on the clutch side more at first but after I did the grip puppies, it appeared to be more on the throttle side. I've heard many comments about the bike smoothing out as you put more miles on it and that does seem to be the case. The clutch side is pretty sold and the throttle side is just a tad shaky. This is with the throttle lock set and my hands just resting on the grips to ensure my grip wasn't too tight.

I'll have a chance to ride more tomorrow, I did the airscrew adj and set the CO to (6), that has smoothed things out nicely around town, we'll see if it's better on the highway. I'll report back.
 

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I installed PG 714 grips on mine, which helps over the rubber coated toilet paper tubes that come stock. I've also noticed that vibration is worse in warmer weather, and is becoming less as the miles accumulate. The TB sync and CO adjust help a bit as well. I'm sort of surprised that Yamaha didn't fit polymer bar mounts. The pegs, with the rubber inserts, transfer almost no vibration.

But it is a twin, and a 270 degree twin at that. Still smoother than my old SR500, and the XS650s that I had. But for the price, I would have thought it would have been addressed up front. A minor problem, and if it persists, I'll modify something to resolve it. Maybe even a on-off upper triple with rubber mounts from another model. I'd want to do that to allow replacement parts. Never build what you can buy.
 

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Yamaguy55 said:
I'm sort of surprised that Yamaha didn't fit polymer bar mounts. ....I'll modify something to resolve it. Maybe even a on-off upper triple with rubber mounts from another model.
Everything has tradeoffs. Rubber bar mounts introduce a little imprecision and sponginess in a a criticial control you ideally want to have none. I think if the bike had them, you'd have at least as many who are complaining of vibes complaining about imprecise handling.

As you say, twins are twins. Most don't mind the vibes and the lower frequency, even if it is stronger, can be a lot less fatiguing the inline-four buzz. (There are a lot of folks on the FJR forum which complain about the buzz at 5K.) This is one of those subjective things where individual bikes and individual riders match up very differently. I'd certainly give it some time to resolve by itself, but OTOH, if you're experiencing persistent tingling in hands, then it needs to be solved as you're doing damage to your body. In extreme cases, the only solution will be a different bike.

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Change your grips first.....I prefer the Pro Grips 714 Dual Sport or the 719 RVGS Sport grips. These make a huge improvement over most stock grips. Never tried the BMW grips, but alot of folks swear by them.

Another cheap and simple thing to do is change the vibration resonance of the bars. There are many ways to accomplish this....fill the bars with lead shot - No. 7-1/2's, 8's or 9's seem to work best. (seal the ends with a good dose of caulk). This option is reversible if it does not work. Another way to add mass is to fill the bars will caulk. Use a caulk gun and a big tube of caulk with a homemade hose extension to get to the center of the bars and start filling and slowly removing the tube extension. Of course none of these will work if the end of the bars are plugged.

Next option would be to change out the bars with another brand.

Add a cruise control and relax your grip!

-steve
 

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It's almost a shame the Simm's people don't look in to a pair of dampening bar ends. They make anti vibe stuff for bows, guns and other things, I would think that would be a Gold mine. There are a lot of motorcycles that could benefit from quieter bars. I will look in to filling them with something. I have had a number of bikes in the past that the bars were buzzy. But they were equal on both sides, this one is more challenging.
 

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I used a product called a Bar Snake on my old XL. It is a single 600 cc cylinder, not a double, but the principle is the same. If memory serves, they had a liquid as well, something that could be coaxed past the threads of our bar ends. I'm going to go play with Google now.
 

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Don in Lodi said:
I used a product called a Bar Snake on my old XL. It is a single 600 cc cylinder, not a double, but the principle is the same. If memory serves, they had a liquid as well, something that could be coaxed past the threads of our bar ends. I'm going to go play with Google now.
Well, their site says they're out of stock on their two liquids. Last site update was 2010 sometime. Not very promising.
 

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Does the stock bars have a nut welding inside the handlebar?
 

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tomatocity said:
Does the stock bars have a nut welding inside the handlebar?
If you mean for the bar end weights, yes.
 

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Never had tapered bars. Would they mitigate the harmonics of a straight bar?
 

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SisuTen said:
Never had tapered bars. Would they mitigate the harmonics of a straight bar?
I think that's one of the things I read about Pro Taper bars. If so, can you imagine straights?

My bars aren't bad to me. Stretch out a finger and touch the hand guard now, it's like one of those old school joy buzzers, startling.
 

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Don in Lodi said:
I think that's one of the things I read about Pro Taper bars. If so, can you imagine straights?

My bars aren't bad to me. Stretch out a finger and touch the hand guard now, it's like one of those old school joy buzzers, startling.
Yea, reached up and touched the mirror and thought I had been shocked.. It was kinda like the old buzzers. ::025::

I noticed that the vibrations on my bike do not start until around 4,000rpm and get worse as the rpm increase. I will wait until someone comes up with a remedy.. :)
 

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I guess I'm used to a LOT worse.

First ride out, I got the tingle (first ride jitters, gripping too hard, I suppose). Second ride, I loosened up on the grip and it was fine.

The bike is also smoothing out more than I thought. Unless I try out some different bars and like them better, I'll stick with stock. Works for me.

I had a Versys that I liked a lot for many reasons, but the mirrors looked like they were smeared with Vaseline they vibrated so badly, however, I never worried about being overtaken ::005::, so I didn't use them anyway. ::025::
 

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SisuTen said:
I guess I'm used to a LOT worse.

First ride out, I got the tingle (first ride jitters, gripping too hard, I suppose). Second ride, I loosened up on the grip and it was fine.

The bike is also smoothing out more than I thought. Unless I try out some different bars and like them better, I'll stick with stock. Works for me.

I had a Versys that I liked a lot for many reasons, but the mirrors looked like they were smeared with Vaseline they vibrated so badly, however, I never worried about being overtaken ::005::, so I didn't use them anyway. ::025::
So you are saying you don't have the tight vibrations between 4 and 5 grand. I can't see clearly on the mirrors and can feel it. Maybe yours is running better than mine?
 
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