Fuel tank capacity

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trikepilot said:
..Under normal and varied throttle use, the light came on at 230 and the motor stopped at 290. So 60mi was ny absolute limit once the light came on...
This is very key point here. When i first got my bike I was monitoring my count up miles after low fuel light comes on. 40 miles a few times and 50 miles once without running out. But what I didn't realize was the effect of normal and varied throttle use on mpg. All these instances were done in T mode and reasonable speeds. One day was riding high speed interstate through San Antonio in S mode playing cat and mouse with a sports car. Low fuel light came on and I was only 30 miles from planned gas stop so no worry at all. Ran out of gas with 28 miles on the counter. I've had fill ups at 33 mpg and fill ups at 57 mpg, it's all in he wrist.

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ScoutDogMan said:
On my 2016 ES, I figured I have at least 50 mies left when the light starts to blink and it indicates low fuel. The mile read out is not correct, it showed "0" miles and according to what I put in it, I had 30-40 miles left in it. On mine, it looks like the light starts blinking
when there is about 1 gallon left in the tank. Based on my milage last week on a 800+ mile trip (I averaged 51.3 mpg), that leaves about 50 miles after blinking indicator.
I think 50 miles is correct. I had about 56 miles showing, in this case, on that extra screen that pops up when your low fuel indicator begins to blink.
 

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Some of you guys are guessing reserve range for no reason. If you figure you have a gallon for reserve, (it's more like 1.2 though) RE-SET your MPG average when your reserve starts blinking. You are now able to see exactly how many miles you are going to get out of that last gallon, by how hard or easy you want to ride.
 

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scott123007 said:
Some of you guys are guessing reserve range for no reason. If you figure you have a gallon for reserve, (it's more like 1.2 though) RE-SET your MPG average when your reserve starts blinking. You are now able to see exactly how many miles you are going to get out of that last gallon, by how hard or easy you want to ride.
Spot on great idea here.

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I once ran my 2013 ST out of fuel when she was relatively new... I got about 45 miles after the gauge started blinking; since I do a lot of fast freeway commuting I get about 40 mpg typically. The blinking starts about 170 miles into the tank; I fill on the side stand to the bottom of the fuel tank ring.

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I recently went to the French MotoGP with a group of friends, one of whom is a very inexperienced rider on a CBF600. A very 'interesting' ride as she would get it into 6th as fast as she could and slowly accelerate up to 55mph (we were even overtaken by HGV's - scary). Only good outcome was my mpg sat around the 68mpg mark. Did the 150 there and all the trips from the gite we were staying at to the circuit and back without having to top up. Managed to get 270 miles out of that tank before I had to top up the tank (21 litres) for the return trip.
Stangely, the Honda's (CBF600, CBR600 and a Blackbird) all hit the reserves the 140 mile mark.
 

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I ran my 13 totally out of gas and coasted in the gas station And I was only able to put 5.8 US gallons .
 

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??? 23 Liters is 6.076 gallons. (actually 6.07596, but I rounded it off) Math, it's important. ;)

I very much doubt the tanks themselves vary much. Manufacturing tolerances and methods make it very rare for this type of assembly to be off by any significant amount. (I spent 30 years working in manufacturing as a machinist and have seen a lot of processes and quality control methods.)

However, the amount of each bike's reserve does vary quite a bit. Most are around 1.2 to 1.6 gallons. The reason for the variations is that the float arm can easily be bent when the fuel pump is installed into the tank. It's a tight fit. My reserve was pretty close to 1.6 gallons of useable fuel before I removed my fuel pump during the install of a bulkhead fitting for my fuel cell. I intentionally bent the float arm a bit to reduce my reserve and got it down to just over 1 gallon. I found it annoying to have the reserve light start flashing and only get 4.5 gallons in if I filled up immediately. Hardly a concern when I still had some 60+ miles left. I often ride tank to tank, even with 11 gallons available now.

I once coasted into a gas station after 163 miles of hard riding, but usually get ~40-42 mpg. I'm always running panniers, fuel cell, 1 gallon hydration jug, etc so not very aerodynamic. 80 mph speed limits here too, when I'm local.

The calculated mpg is pretty silly to watch. I see 16 to 99.9 mpg depending on throttle position and conditions. Re-setting the average is a smart ideal for getting a better idea of how far you can go. Most of us can get at least 40 miles on reserve if we are traveling at steady speeds and not into a wind or heavily loaded. You should start getting nervous around 35 if you've never actually tested how far you can get on reserve.

If you have managed to get over 6.1 gallons into your tank on more than one occasion, ask yourself if it was at the same gas station. If so, you probably don't want to buy gas there any more. Pumps are not as accurate as you think, and not tested as often as you would believe. It's common for states with testing programs to only test 10-20 pumps a month. That leaves a lot of pumps un-tested. Typically they only test the stations where they get complaints, and most people have no idea what their cars are taking in terms of gallons, so wouldn't complain. Some testing organizations only test octane, not volume. Hard to believe, but true. They pump a liter for octane testing, but the pumps are in gallons in the US, so it's not as simple as you would think for them to notice.
 

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Yeah, even when mine ran out (fortunately a short push) I was only able to put about 5.8 in. I usually run at around 80 (indicated) and get around 40mpg. I always fill on the centerstand, and always fill until the fuel stabilizes at the bottom of the filler neck. Mine's a 2015 std
 

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So far I have not run the Tenere out of gas, the most gas I've ever put in was 5.8 gallons with 260 miles indicated
 

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Z750jay said:
That's about right, think it's a 22 or 23 lt tank which works out at 5.8 us gallons or 4.8 rest of the world gallons
Rest of the world is liters. Imperial gallon is all but dead, used only in the Caribbean I thought. Didn't the EU take care of that for you. US gallon has much wider spread use.

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SilverBullet said:
Rest of the world is liters. Imperial gallon is all but dead, used only in the Caribbean I thought. Didn't the EU take care of that for you. US gallon has much wider spread use.

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Neither measure is used very widely as a primary measure outside of the UK and USA respectively.Yeah, yeah, lots of members of this forum come from the good ole USA and old Blighty so they think they are in the majority generally, but with 9 billion or so people on earth in over 200 countries that view is egocentric.

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From Wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallon):

Worldwide usage of gallons

The Imperial gallon is used in everyday life (and in advertising) in the United Kingdom, and less frequently in Canada, including fuel economy expression in advertisements and other official publications. Gallons used in fuel economy expression in Canada are Imperial gallons....................The Imperial gallon continues to be used as a unit of measure in Anguilla, Antigua and Barbuda, the Bahamas, the British Virgin Islands, the Cayman Is., Dominica, Grenada,Montserrat, Myanmar (Burma), St. Kitts & Nevis, St. Lucia, and St. Vincent & the Grenadines.

Other than the United States, the US gallon is used in Liberia, Belize, Colombia, The Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, Guatemala, Haiti, Honduras, Nicaragua, and Peru.
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In the Turks & Caicos Islands, both the U.S. gallon and Imperial gallon are used, due to an increase in tax duties disguised by levying the same duty on the 3.79 L U.S. gallon as was previously levied on the 4.55 L Imperial gallon.


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Although this fuel capacity thread is only about gallons, here's a link to an article and map of countries that are NOT using the Metric System generally (http://www.zmescience.com/other/map-of-countries-officially-not-using-the-metric-system/) :



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Compared to the litre (liter) both measurements called gallon are antiquated and awkward. Again from Wiki:

The imperial gallon
The imperial (UK) gallon, now defined as exactly 4.54609 litres (about 277.42 cubic inches), is used in some Commonwealth countries and was originally based on the volume of 10 pounds (approximately 4.54 kg) of water at 62 °F (17 °C). The imperial fluid ounce is defined as 1⁄160 of an imperial gallon; there are four quarts in a gallon, two pints in a quart, and 20 Imperial fluid ounces in an imperial pint.

The US liquid gallon
The US gallon is legally defined as 231 cubic inches, which is exactly 3.785411784 liters. A US liquid gallon of water weighs about 8.34 pounds or 3.78 kilograms at 62 °F (17 °C), making it about 16.6% lighter than the imperial gallon. There are four quarts in a gallon, two pints in a quart and 16 US fluid ounces in a US pint, which makes the US fluid ounce equal to 1⁄128 of a US gallon. In order to overcome the effects of expansion and contraction with temperature when using a gallon to specify a quantity of material for purposes of trade, it is common to define the temperature at which the material will occupy the specified volume. For example, the volume of petroleum products and alcoholic beverages are both referenced to 60 °F (16 °C) in government regulations.
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OX-34 said:
Neither measure is used very widely as a primary measure outside of the UK and USA respectively.Yeah, yeah, lots of members of this forum come from the good ole USA and old Blighty so they think they are in the majority generally, but with 9 billion or so people on earth in over 200 countries that view is egocentric.
Everybody knows the liter is used worldwide, that is why I corrected his "rest of the world" statement.

My quoted comment above was only about US to Imperial gallon not either gallon to liter.

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[quote author=SilverBullet]

My quoted comment above was only about US to Imperial gallon not either gallon to liter.

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No worries mate, I was just correcting your "much wider spread" statement. You did the same thing as the guy you were correcting ::025::
 

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OX-34 said:
No worries mate, I was just correcting your "much wider spread" statement. You did the same thing as the guy you were correcting ::025::
That wasn't the meaning of my statement, it was comparing gallon to gallon same as whom I quoted. Maybe I wasn't clear or you misread. My statement referred to US gallon having 'much wider spread' use than Imperial gallon. This does seem to happen to me often. When I quote someone, my response is to that quote so I don't repeat what I am referring to in my response as I have quoted it. If you read my response without including the quote you can get the wrong understanding.

Anyway both gallons are just a pimple on the butt of the liter. I love the press and hold display feature of the Tenere to change units to metric system. Makes traveling North and South of US border much easier when your odometer correlates to road signs.

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I've managed 5.9 gallons into my 2015 ES. It was 30 miles after the low fuel started blinking under "normal" riding conditions.
 
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