Brake pad life - what's to be expected

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Re: fast rear brake pad wear

On a tangent, there's always discussion about whether to buy online versus at the local brick & mortar shop. I'll be at nearly 20,000 miles in 5 weeks so wanted to have a set of pads on hand for our June trip. My dealer's initial quote for a full set of OEM pads was a bit over $140 (2 sets front and one set rear). The Stadium Yamaha price was $109 shipped.

Most dealers any more are so aware of internet prices that they are willing to at least discuss what they can do on their parts prices for you. While they obviously have overhead that means they seldom can beat online pricing, I don't mind keeping my local dealer around if the price is close. PLUS they usually get my parts faster than delivery.

Having the individual part numbers and prices in hand, the local dealer (Battley Harley/BMW/Ducati/Yamaha of Rockville, MD) was willing to come down from full retail to $114.59. Obviously, your dealer WILL vary, but for the $5 difference and 3 day delivery, I'm supporting my local shop.

Heck, I'll get that much back in their free donuts. ;)
 

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Re: fast rear brake pad wear

Checkswrecks said:
On a tangent, there's always discussion about whether to buy online versus at the local brick & mortar shop. I'll be at nearly 20,000 miles in 5 weeks so wanted to have a set of pads on hand for our June trip. My dealer's initial quote for a full set of OEM pads was a bit over $140 (2 sets front and one set rear). The Stadium Yamaha price was $109 shipped.

Most dealers any more are so aware of internet prices that they are willing to at least discuss what they can do on their parts prices for you.
This came up over the weekend at the Romney Cycles event. Larry (the manager) said they will match any price you can find online. Call them up, order, then you have a good excuse to go for a ride to WV to pick up parts (I'm saving money, honey). Or of course they will ship.

And BTW - they are offering 20% off Klim Badlands, and as similar amount off other Klim gear - just call Shawn and say you saw it on the forum... You won't find this kind of discount anywhere online (I looked - a lot - before I found that I could get my Badlands through Romney).

Trevor
 

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Re: fast rear brake pad wear

The dealer I purchased my Tenere from gives me 20% on parts, accessories, gear, and clothing. The parts manager is a long time friend that is very smart. He will beat any reasonable advertised price. Matching a price is very reasonable and says a lot about the dealership.

I gotta call about the Klim gear.
 

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Re: fast rear brake pad wear

dcstrom said:
I'm at 9,200 miles. Thought the rear pads were getting a little thin, been watching them but I hadn't pulled them to check properly. Had I done that I would have replaced them 1000 miles ago. Don't like that bit of metal-to-metal on the outer edge... So that makes 8000 miles out of a set of rear pads. I've never had that little on any bike, and normally I'm wearing out fronts before the rears (fronts are about 1/2 worn currently).
Trevor good call on this one. I had Romney do some work today and I asked them to check the rear pad. 13K miles and it was as low as I've ever seen pads. Definitely needed changing. Seems like such a lower mileage point to be changing, but it is what it is and glad it's done before the big trip.
 

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rear brake pads

just changed them after 13500 miles, i cannot believe how easy and quick it was to take the old ones out, clean the caliper up with acf50, put new pads in. all done in about 5 minutes. done plenty before on bikes but never this easy ::008::
 

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Re: rear brake pads

Nice to know. I hadn't thought about it yet as I am only at 2500 miles.
Have you done the fronts yet-? What pads did you use-?
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Re: rear brake pads

The fronts are just as quick. Pull 2 pins, drop out, drop in, replace the pins.
Done.
 

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I used EBC HH pads front and rear and they don't get much better. Initial bite is excellent and I've never had them fade, even on a track Ducati.
 

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I am changing tires right now and checking rear pads found that they are gone. 11500 miles. And I tend to not use the rear brake much. Guess the linked systen is working. :)
 

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Rear brake pads also done @ 20,000 kms. Original part # for rear pads superseded by new one, maybe newer better longer lasting????? We will see. Fronts have lots left. I also use the rear very rarely.
 

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Re: rear brake pads

Interesting, I just changed tires and checked my brakes ready to replace front and back, back were worn the worse but only about half worn. I did not change. 24,000 miles. I must not stop enough, my wife would agree. ::013::

P.S. I do use UBS 99% of the time, and downshift on braking to use engine braking as much as possible.
 

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Re: rear brake pads

My rear brake pads were changed at the 10k km job.

The UBB "knows" if the bike is heavy loaded or not. When it detects a heavy load (brake power used versus deceleration) the ratio between front and back brake shifts more towards the back brake.

I'm a heavy guy :))
 

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Re: rear brake pads

Tiger_one said:
Interesting, I just changed tires and checked my brakes ready to replace front and back, back were worn the worse but only about half worn. I did not change. 24,000 miles. I must not stop enough, my wife would agree. ::013::

P.S. I do use UBS 99% of the time, and downshift on braking to use engine braking as much as possible.
Judging by current wear my rotor will be done by 24000 miles. I also down shift to slow and do quite a few 600 mile runs on hiway with only braking for fuel.
 

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viewdvb said:
I used EBC HH pads front and rear and they don't get much better. Initial bite is excellent and I've never had them fade, even on a track Ducati.
My rear brake pads were gone at 11.8 K miles. I've replaced front and back with EBC HH sintered pads. The EBC part numbers were FA380HH for the front and FA319/2HH for the rear. Two rotors on the front and one on the back. I didn't go for the Extreme Performance Models (EPFA). They were pretty spendy.
I would recommend that you go down to the auto parts store and get a "One Man Brake Bleeding Kit" or something similar if you don't have it. It will save you some brake fluid rather than it spilling on the floor. Also I sourced these parts from the Powersports Superstore. They are down in Texas, so living in Arkansas I got 72 hour turn around for $2.95 shipping. Each set was about $25. Couldn't find a better deal anywhere.
This is day two and they are just getting broken in good. The brakes are so much better!
 

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Re: rear brake pads

I like the feel of the EBC HH pads, but they ate the stock rotors on my FJR unpleasantly fast. I'll be sticking to factory Yamaha pads for the S10.
 

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Re: rear brake pads

EricV said:
I like the feel of the EBC HH pads, but they ate the stock rotors on my FJR unpleasantly fast. I'll be sticking to factory Yamaha pads for the S10.
Interesting cos I always used the EBC HH pads on my 3 FJR's and they scored the rotors a bit but not to the point of replacement. Depends what you mean by "ate"
 

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viewdvb said:
Interesting cos I always used the EBC HH pads on my 3 FJR's and they scored the rotors a bit but not to the point of replacement. Depends what you mean by "ate"
I used one set of Yamaha pads to 98k on the FJR. Some rotor wear, but minimal. The next set was EBC HH and the rotors were not going to be useable after that set of pads. At 150k they were getting close to the end of the rotor life, still another 10-15k on the pads and I lost a front wheel bearing on one side going over Wolf Creek Pass in CO. Had to stop in Pagosa Springs and have the local Yamaha dealer order me bearings and install them. He couldn't get pads in a timely manner, so limped home with very worn pads and gouged out rotors and replaced the rotors and pads when I got home. I got a lot of brake dust from the HH pads too, or at least a lot compared to the stock Yamaha pads.

I realize people commonly go thru brake pads a bit faster than I do. At 30k on the S10, the rear pads are low enough that I'm going to order another set to have on hand so I don't get caught out, but they still have quite a few miles left on them.

Just tossing out another data point.
 

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EricV said:
I used one set of Yamaha pads to 98k on the FJR. Some rotor wear, but minimal. The next set was EBC HH and the rotors were not going to be useable after that set of pads. At 150k they were getting close to the end of the rotor life, still another 10-15k on the pads and I lost a front wheel bearing on one side going over Wolf Creek Pass in CO. Had to stop in Pagosa Springs and have the local Yamaha dealer order me bearings and install them. He couldn't get pads in a timely manner, so limped home with very worn pads and gouged out rotors and replaced the rotors and pads when I got home. I got a lot of brake dust from the HH pads too, or at least a lot compared to the stock Yamaha pads.

I realize people commonly go thru brake pads a bit faster than I do. At 30k on the S10, the rear pads are low enough that I'm going to order another set to have on hand so I don't get caught out, but they still have quite a few miles left on them.

Just tossing out another data point.
Maybe 150K is the expected rotor life for the FJR?
 

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protondecay123 said:
Maybe 150K is the expected rotor life for the FJR?
Most of the peeps I know that put the miles on FJRs usually get closer to 200k before needing rotors.
 
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