Jealousy maybe?!?my new woods bike is a Beta, what was that about Italian stuff many pages back?
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Just teasing
Jealousy maybe?!?my new woods bike is a Beta, what was that about Italian stuff many pages back?
cruise control is a potentially dangerous functionI've done that a few times.
All it takes is for your foot to ever so lightly touch the brake pedal and you better have both hands on the bars.
Interestingly enough, I made the observation today when I was on the SAS that it actually looks and feels narrower than my S10 from the driver's seat (whether it is or not I couldn't say for sure because I can't do a side-by-side).Just last week I was standing next to a '23 SAR with my GM at a KTM dealership buddy. He was saying, 'wow, that mid section looks enormous.' I
That's a great comparison shot.Interestingly enough, I made the observation today when I was on the SAS that it actually looks and feels narrower than my S10 from the driver's seat (whether it is or not I couldn't say for sure because I can't do a side-by-side).
After pondering on it for a bit, I realized that the wide spot on my S10 (where the upper crash bars wrap around the radiator and electronics area) is much higher than the wide spot on the SAS. Basically, the fat part of the Yamaha is above my knees and staring me right in the face as I go down the road. The KTM is much thinner above the knees, carrying its width (and weight!) down by my toes where I am not looking at it as I go down the road.
It makes the bike feel much skinnier, if that makes sense?
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Wouldn't that be because the pistons are not side by side? You've basically gone from a 1200 twin to a 600 single. Right?. . . . It makes the bike feel much skinnier, if that makes sense? . . . .
Well, there is that.......but we can both point at the Beemer fatty's and laugh, right?Wouldn't that be because the pistons are not side by side? You've basically gone from a 1200 twin to a 600 single. Right?
I am one of "those" people. And yeah, I guess it's where and how I ride. If I did more, as in a lot of, highway driving I could see the need for more HP. I would have stayed with the FJ/FJR for the effortless highway acceleration. But my candy ass can't take hour on hour of saddle time without a break. (I've spent 8-10hrs/day on a bike, but not in a row). . . . This is a bit strange when I see people talk about not needing any more power in the Tenere. Is this from past experience, or where they ride? . . . .
Well put sir.Last week I just happened to do some work next to a dealer that has Triumph and Ducati. I walked over and looked at the Triumph Explorer and the Multistrada, they had them both. The Triumph looked and felt pretty good, for being "not set up for me" it was good off the showroom floor. I would consider that one day. The Ducati looks awesome and has some great numbers on paper, but for what I do, its just to much power, electronics, sophistication, chain drive. As the sales man said, Its priority and "DNA" is a super bike, this one happens to go off road, I believe that. What a monster @ 175 HP.. That new Triumph is not far behind with something like 145-150HP... Compared to a stock Tenere with a very "supposedly" 100 HP, these would be fantastic. If I remember correctly, our Tenere is "100 HP" at the crank, and probably 80 at the wheel................. With the Ducati being chain drive and 175HP, that would put the Ducati at almost exactly twice the power at the wheel........ and that is NUTTS.... Fun, but really crazy......
Many new bikes on the market, and more very nice alternatives heading to market. The ADV future looks super fun !
This is a bit strange when I see people talk about not needing any more power in the Tenere. Is this from past experience, or where they ride? I ride my Tenere across the US and then ride 1000+ miles off road. With many Tenere riders not going off road, or very little it would seem that the "touring" type would want more highway power. I ride a lot off road and 100 HP is plenty for off road, but I sure would like more highway pulling power. When I have my big bags hanging off the sides, and Im fully loaded, there are have been many times I have it pinned trying to pass someone and I would enjoy a bit more grunt! My next ADV bike should have plenty of 'grunt' , along with many new features Yamaha does not even offer. Not only will it be more convenient for my trip, it certainly will have more power. More power, more conveniences, more adjustment, more enjoyable......... Maybe not for everyone, but not scared to say, its for me.................. Going without the very basic options is kind of a drag, for instance, cruise control, Etc.........
Wow, quite a blanket statement, guess I better go get me a different bike.Anyone who needs 150hp in an adventure bike is clearly confused of what an ADV bike true nature is and spends too much time watching youtube instead of going out on an adventure.
No matter what brand, no one on the planet will ever use 150hp off road, on road maybe but then your on the wrong iron. Maybe a crotch rocket will suit you better.