Yamaha (Warn) Winch- short video and photos

[iridemotorbikes]

Yamaha had a Super Tenere at the Austin MotoGP (COTA is a awesome track) with the Warn/Yamaha accessory winch on it, took some video and pics for everyone..

Yamaha Super Tenere Warn winch show and tell

 

[macca]

Saw a vid of this winch in action some time ago (think its on the warn USA site somewhere) they don't winch off the mounting plate, that's there just to carry the winch on the bike. I recall they take the winch off and attach it using a bridle to the bike (front was used in the vid from memory) and the winch attaches to the bike battery via an umbilical. Its then spooled out to a solid object and used to which the bike out of its stuck position. Which such a small battery my worry would be that the bikes alternator may not be giving enough juice to power a winch and the bikes electrics whilst keeping enough juice in the battery for a restart. I guess if you kept it running once winched out then it would recover.
heres a vid from warn I just (re-)found.
WARN XT17 Portable Winch in action

 

[offcamber]

I bought cheap Pro-mark ATV winch (Warn knock off) for about $90 and was going to basically do the same thing as the high priced Warn setup....never did get around to finishing it. Its a lot of extra weight to carry but could save your butt.

 

[sail2xxs]

Would a block and tackle work almost as well without the extra electrical load and weight?

Chris

 

[iridemotorbikes]

Macca thanks for the video-- was scratching my head over how the heck that rack would hold up under load...lol

 

[PNWSuperbeast]

Would a block and tackle work almost as well without the extra electrical load and weight?

Chris

Sure would. Here is a link for the Motorcycle Recovery System. No affilitation just a good product.www.bestrestproducts.com Much lighter ::015::

 

[Firefight911]

You can make your own 2:1 haul system for less than half the cost of a commercially made one. Take a trip to REI or any climbing store and go get your pieces there. Just make sure YIU use static line and not dynamic line. Static has stretch so you lose pull distance over static line.


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[Dirt_Dad]

Sure would. Here is a link for the Motorcycle Recovery System. No affilitation just a good product.www.bestrestproducts.com Much lighter ::015::

What is in the MRS that makes it worth $180? Looking at the parts I just don't see it. Not trying to be an a-hole, just honestly curious why it's that expensive.

 

[Firefight911]

It's expensive because someone went and bought the separate pieces and threw them in a zip loc. There's no reason to pay this inflated and ridiculous price!!! Ever!!! I'm in the business if using this stuff daily. Even we don't pay those rape prices through government resources.


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[PNWSuperbeast]

You can make your own 2:1 haul system for less than half the cost of a commercially made one. Take a trip to REI or any climbing store and go get your pieces there. Just make sure YIU use static line and not dynamic line. Static has stretch so you lose pull distance over static line.


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Thanks for the info, good to know on building your own might be worth a visit to REI.....like I needed that excuse......I know it is overpriced but it also is much cheaper than the winch setup if you look at it from that perspective ::008:: but as said earlier always good to find the great lessons from everyone on the site. Thanks.

 

[oilfield_trash]

That plate isn't for winching. That is just a carrying plate. If you look at how these winches are actually used, they are attached to the front of the bike with a nylon strap.

 

[sail2xxs]

Thanks for the info, good to know on building your own might be worth a visit to REI.....like I needed that excuse......I know it is overpriced but it also is much cheaper than the winch setup if you look at it from that perspective ::008:: but as said earlier always good to find the great lessons from everyone on the site. Thanks.

You could also go to West Marine, or check any of the online boating gear shops.

Chris

 

[Don in Lodi]

It's expensive because someone went and bought the separate pieces and threw them in a zip loc. There's no reason to pay this inflated and ridiculous price!!! Ever!!! I'm in the business if using this stuff daily. Even we don't pay those rape prices through government resources.


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You're going to have to show me that knot at the next tech day.

 

[Firefight911]

Yup!!! Which reminds me......it's about time I do a tech day!!! When do you want to do it? Middle May?


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[Don in Lodi]

If its a Saturday, I'll request the day off. Any time is fine.

 

[chuma]

Would a block and tackle work almost as well without the extra electrical load and weight?

Chris

Very true. You could get a set of Ronstan (or similar) triple blocks from a marine catalogue. Some line, say 80 feet or so maybe, and one person could lift that bike right of the ground. Cost about $250.00 or less. I don't know what the winch costs, but the block and tackle needs basically no maintenance and will always work.


I guess I should have read further before posting. Except people are suggesting 2 to 1 ratios. I think you would want at least a 4 to 1. Better yet a 6 to 1. But good quality blocks aren't cheap.

 

[Firefight911]

You need to be very careful going up beyond anything greater than a 2:1, 3:1 at most. You have to remember that at some point your multiplying force will be so great that you will bend something or break something if you are stuck or hang up on something. It would be a good conversation piece to explain how you bent your subframe though!!!!

Plus, the more multiplying force the less pull distance you get so you will need to move your anchor back further and use much more line. 4 feet of pull on the haul line will net you 2 feet of load pull in a 2:1. A 4 foot pull on the haul line will net you only 1 foot of pull in a 4:1, and so on......


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[chuma]

You need to be very careful going up beyond anything greater than a 2:1, 3:1 at most. You have to remember that at some point your multiplying force will be so great that you will bend something or break something if you are stuck or hang up on something. It would be a good conversation piece to explain how you bent your subframe though!!!!

Plus, the more multiplying force the less pull distance you get so you will need to move your anchor back further and use much more line. 4 feet of pull on the haul line will net you 2 feet of load pull in a 2:1. A 4 foot pull on the haul line will net you only 1 foot of pull in a 4:1, and so on......


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The bike weighs 600 plus pounds with gear. A 2 to 1 is only doubling your strength, minus frictional losses. If it is really stuck somewhere good, a ratio like that isn't going to be much use. Even at 6 to 1 you would still have to apply 100 pounds of force to theoretically lift the thing. Let's say your wheels are buried to the hubs. A strap attached correctly to the forks are not going to hurt anything. By having a 6 to 1 ratio you will better be able to regulate the amount of force you apply because you will not be up against your maximum pulling ability like you would with a lesser ratio. It's like cooking with a sharp knife being safer than one that's dull. I agree that purchase of 6 to 1 uses much more line, but that can be somewhat mitigated by using a long pennant attached to one of the blocks. You'll probably only need to move the bike a couple of feet to un-stick it.

 

[Firefight911]

You go first.

Your not lifting it up off the ground. If you need 600 pounds of pull force to unstick the bike you have much bigger problems than needing a 6:1.

It's prolly time to work smarter and not harder. Dig out, remove the extra gear, etc.


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[chuma]

You go first.

Your not lifting it up off the ground. If you need 600 pounds of pull force to unstick the bike you have much bigger problems than needing a 6:1.

It's prolly time to work smarter and not harder. Dig out, remove the extra gear, etc.


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I was just using that as reference point. I know you are not lifting the bike. Still, if it is really dug in somewhere, six hundred points of force might very well come in handy. I am not saying you would use all that. It's the same thing with horsepower. Nobody needs 100hps to power a 600 pound machine. But it sure makes it easier.