Ronzo
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May seem like a silly question but will any S10 key open S10 luggage or are they specific to each bike?
US bikes don't have an immobilizer so any key copy will start them.when i sold my 3 boxes to swop for givi trekker, i didn,t want the locks anymore so sold the 3 boxes with locks attached to them i got 2 cheap keys cut for him so the boxes were ready to fit,
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See Sierra 1's post above.Glad I found this thread. Was about to start one similar. So, after 5 months of ownership and a proper Ozarks trip, it looks like I'm keeping the S10 I plan to equip it with the OEM side cases but I have questions regarding the cases locks and keys.
1) What's the best way to go about matching case locks to my ignition key? (I'm the second owner, the bike came with only one key for ignition)
2) I purchased and installed a new OEM top case, lock and key (pretty pricey lunchbox), will I need to replace that lock and key to match the future side cases?
3) Do we have to go to an authorized dealer to have copies of the ignition key made? (I hate having just the one that came with the bike)
MANY thanks in advance all
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New Super Teneres come with 3 locks that are keyed for the ignition key. 2 locks for the side cases and 1 for a top box.
The Yamaha keys bend easily. I had some spare keys cut at a local locksmith shop. Most hardware stores should be able to cut you some spares.Glad I found this thread. Was about to start one similar. So, after 5 months of ownership and a proper Ozarks trip, it looks like I'm keeping the S10 I plan to equip it with the OEM side cases but I have questions regarding the cases locks and keys.
1) What's the best way to go about matching case locks to my ignition key? (I'm the second owner, the bike came with only one key for ignition)
2) I purchased and installed a new OEM top case, lock and key (pretty pricey lunchbox), will I need to replace that lock and key to match the future side cases?
3) Do we have to go to an authorized dealer to have copies of the ignition key made? (I hate having just the one that came with the bike)
MANY thanks in advance all
When I matched my GIVI cases to my ignition key this is what I purchased:Glad I found this thread. Was about to start one similar. So, after 5 months of ownership and a proper Ozarks trip, it looks like I'm keeping the S10 I plan to equip it with the OEM side cases but I have questions regarding the cases locks and keys.
1) What's the best way to go about matching case locks to my ignition key? (I'm the second owner, the bike came with only one key for ignition)
2) I purchased and installed a new OEM top case, lock and key (pretty pricey lunchbox), will I need to replace that lock and key to match the future side cases?
3) Do we have to go to an authorized dealer to have copies of the ignition key made? (I hate having just the one that came with the bike)
MANY thanks in advance all
Well, yes and no. Like Don in Lodi mentioned, you can get keys made that just open the cases that will not start the bike because the length of the key can be shorter for the cases.US bikes don't have an immobilizer so any key copy will start them.
Typically the luggage locks can be matched to your ignition by a competent locksmith w/o much fuss or cost.Thanks for all the info everyone. Sorry for my late response. Been busy playing in the snow in San Antonio (!)
I purchased my bike out of state and the sales rep assured me that the previous owner had no extra key or any other items to go with the bike. Sucks because I would've appreciated the owner's manual and (now especially) those locks (per Sierra1's info). I bought the bike with less than 2,000 miles on it. Previous owner sure "lost" a lot of stuff quickly!
I will however:
* Take another look for the locks under the seat (I've accessed the area many times for road trip toolkit placement, but hey, ya never know, maybe I missed a crevice somewhere)
* Revisit my OEM top box key instructions to see if its lock tumbler can be keyed to my ignition
* Locate a reputable locksmith for that spare key work
Thanks again everyone!
EricV, thanks very much for your detailed reply and for the pro tip on the search function ;-)Typically the luggage locks can be matched to your ignition by a competent locksmith w/o much fuss or cost.
Get a basic key or two made for the ignition. The ILCO blank is a X248 YM63. Spares are good and Yamaha keys are typically on the soft side and people often crack them at the point where they fit into the gas cap and luggage locks, which is a shorter depth.
Do not use the long ignition key for luggage. Get some short keys made. There is a short blank that fits the pattern, ILCO X254
On a related note, I didn't like using the main key for the gas cap so just cut down an ILCO X248 and installed a hardware store appliance knob. The knob has a set screw, plus I used some JB Weld so it would be solid, after test fitting and being happy with the length so it was flush to the gas cap lock. Then I removed the flap on the gas cap and left the short key in all the time. The knob looks like this:
Here is one of the threads with more info: LINK
BTW, a trick to doing searches on this forum is that three letter and shorter words don't search, so use related, longer words in your search. I knew I had previously posed info on keys, so I was able to use my user name to narrow the search, then used 'knob' and 'luggage locks' to find key related posts with the info I was looking for.
I have short keys (ILCO X254) for my boxes (all three keyed alike, but not the same as the ignition). Anyone know if the ILCO X254 would work for the gas cap? I get a bit nervous every time I use my ignition key in the tank.Get a basic key or two made for the ignition. The ILCO blank is a X248 YM63. Spares are good and Yamaha keys are typically on the soft side and people often crack them at the point where they fit into the gas cap and luggage locks, which is a shorter depth.
Do not use the long ignition key for luggage. Get some short keys made. There is a short blank that fits the pattern, ILCO X254
On a related note, I didn't like using the main key for the gas cap so just cut down an ILCO X248 and installed a hardware store appliance knob.
Yes, it will work for the gas cap. I think it's the same depth as the luggage locks, or close to it. I just used the longer key for my knob because I already had a few of those cut.I have short keys (ILCO X254) for my boxes (all three keyed alike, but not the same as the ignition). Anyone know if the ILCO X254 would work for the gas cap? I get a bit nervous every time I use my ignition key in the tank.
EricV: The short key blank is without question the BEST IMPROVEMENT to my travel experience. Since acquiring my S10 last year i have been frustrated with having to remove the key from the ignition each time needing access and bending my key with each use. So now my 3 short keys remain in the locks until i need to leave the bike unattended. Currently the keys have seen 2,300 miles of road, and have yet to decide to leave the cozy locks. Gamechanger!Typically the luggage locks can be matched to your ignition by a competent locksmith w/o much fuss or cost.
Get a basic key or two made for the ignition. The ILCO blank is a X248 YM63. Spares are good and Yamaha keys are typically on the soft side and people often crack them at the point where they fit into the gas cap and luggage locks, which is a shorter depth.
Do not use the long ignition key for luggage. Get some short keys made. There is a short blank that fits the pattern, ILCO X254
On a related note, I didn't like using the main key for the gas cap so just cut down an ILCO X248 and installed a hardware store appliance knob. The knob has a set screw, plus I used some JB Weld so it would be solid, after test fitting and being happy with the length so it was flush to the gas cap lock. Then I removed the flap on the gas cap and left the short key in all the time. The knob looks like this:
Here is one of the threads with more info: LINK
BTW, a trick to doing searches on this forum is that three letter and shorter words don't search, so use related, longer words in your search. I knew I had previously posed info on keys, so I was able to use my user name to narrow the search, then used 'knob' and 'luggage locks' to find key related posts with the info I was looking for.