Yamaha OEM luggage keys

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May seem like a silly question but will any S10 key open S10 luggage or are they specific to each bike?
 

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If you bought your bike new, the locks are under the seat. Even if you don't have luggage, Yamaha supplied them just in case. If you got it used, the original owner should have them. I bought my boxes used; bike new. Changed out the locks, which uses your ignition key. So, to answer your question, yes. . . . they locks are specific to a certain bike.
 
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Thanks. The reason I ask is I am buying a used one and I have the extra lockset that came with my bike to install. Just want to make sure the guy selling it knows to remove the lock if he wants it otherwise send me the case unlocked.
 

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Yeah, when I got mine, I got the key also. His bike had been totaled, and the boxes had not been on the bike at the time of the crash. I would ass-ume that your guy just took the locks out, if he was keeping the bike.
 

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when i sold my 3 boxes to swop for givi trekker, i didn,t want the locks anymore so sold the 3 boxes with locks attached to them i got 2 cheap keys cut for him so the boxes were ready to fit,
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when i sold my 3 boxes to swop for givi trekker, i didn,t want the locks anymore so sold the 3 boxes with locks attached to them i got 2 cheap keys cut for him so the boxes were ready to fit,
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US bikes don't have an immobilizer so any key copy will start them.
 

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Glad I found this thread. Was about to start one similar. So, after 5 months of ownership and a proper Ozarks trip, it looks like I'm keeping the S10 ;) I plan to equip it with the OEM side cases but I have questions regarding the cases locks and keys.

1) What's the best way to go about matching case locks to my ignition key? (I'm the second owner, the bike came with only one key for ignition)
2) I purchased and installed a new OEM top case, lock and key (pretty pricey lunchbox), will I need to replace that lock and key to match the future side cases?
3) Do we have to go to an authorized dealer to have copies of the ignition key made? (I hate having just the one that came with the bike)

MANY thanks in advance all :)
 

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Glad I found this thread. Was about to start one similar. So, after 5 months of ownership and a proper Ozarks trip, it looks like I'm keeping the S10 ;) I plan to equip it with the OEM side cases but I have questions regarding the cases locks and keys.

1) What's the best way to go about matching case locks to my ignition key? (I'm the second owner, the bike came with only one key for ignition)
2) I purchased and installed a new OEM top case, lock and key (pretty pricey lunchbox), will I need to replace that lock and key to match the future side cases?
3) Do we have to go to an authorized dealer to have copies of the ignition key made? (I hate having just the one that came with the bike)

MANY thanks in advance all :)
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New Super Teneres come with 3 locks that are keyed for the ignition key. 2 locks for the side cases and 1 for a top box.
See Sierra 1's post above.
 

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Glad I found this thread. Was about to start one similar. So, after 5 months of ownership and a proper Ozarks trip, it looks like I'm keeping the S10 ;) I plan to equip it with the OEM side cases but I have questions regarding the cases locks and keys.

1) What's the best way to go about matching case locks to my ignition key? (I'm the second owner, the bike came with only one key for ignition)
2) I purchased and installed a new OEM top case, lock and key (pretty pricey lunchbox), will I need to replace that lock and key to match the future side cases?
3) Do we have to go to an authorized dealer to have copies of the ignition key made? (I hate having just the one that came with the bike)

MANY thanks in advance all :)
The Yamaha keys bend easily. I had some spare keys cut at a local locksmith shop. Most hardware stores should be able to cut you some spares.
 

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Somebody on here got some extra keys made, and fabricated some knobs onto them. The way they did it reduced the chance of breaking/bending, and made it easier to turn. Can't remember who, or what thread.
 

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Glad I found this thread. Was about to start one similar. So, after 5 months of ownership and a proper Ozarks trip, it looks like I'm keeping the S10 ;) I plan to equip it with the OEM side cases but I have questions regarding the cases locks and keys.

1) What's the best way to go about matching case locks to my ignition key? (I'm the second owner, the bike came with only one key for ignition)
2) I purchased and installed a new OEM top case, lock and key (pretty pricey lunchbox), will I need to replace that lock and key to match the future side cases?
3) Do we have to go to an authorized dealer to have copies of the ignition key made? (I hate having just the one that came with the bike)

MANY thanks in advance all :)
When I matched my GIVI cases to my ignition key this is what I purchased:
59C-281C0-00-00
It came with all the tumblers to rekey a lock. Depending on the tumbler combination for your bike, I found that I could rekey 2 locks with one of these and was only a couple of tumblers short of being able to do 3 locks.. Rekeying the lock was super easy to do. I just read the instructions and went let it rip.

As far as a copy of a Key... unless you bought an EU or Canadian bike, there isn't a FOB you need to worry about. I bought these keys blanks


My first attempt to get them cut was at my local hardware store. They totally screwed them up. So I then contacted a locksmith and had them cut the replacements for me.
 

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A good locksmith is a great asset for any town. They can change the guts of locks to match keys, they can cut keys to match locks. If they're sharp they can work with you on your automotive security stuff too. I believe the oem boxes use less of the ignition key to work the lock like the gas tank, the key copy can be made shorter for less flex, but they won't work in the ignition of course. Eric shortened a key and installed a knob on it to leave in the gas tank lock after removing the flip cover, it's always hidden by a tank bag, won't work in the ignition anyway, clean and simple.
 

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Thanks for all the info everyone. Sorry for my late response. Been busy playing in the snow in San Antonio (!) :rolleyes:
I purchased my bike out of state and the sales rep assured me that the previous owner had no extra key or any other items to go with the bike. Sucks because I would've appreciated the owner's manual and (now especially) those locks (per Sierra1's info). I bought the bike with less than 2,000 miles on it. Previous owner sure "lost" a lot of stuff quickly! :confused:
I will however:

* Take another look for the locks under the seat (I've accessed the area many times for road trip toolkit placement, but hey, ya never know, maybe I missed a crevice somewhere)
* Revisit my OEM top box key instructions to see if its lock tumbler can be keyed to my ignition
* Locate a reputable locksmith for that spare key work

Thanks again everyone!
 

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Thanks for all the info everyone. Sorry for my late response. Been busy playing in the snow in San Antonio (!) :rolleyes:
I purchased my bike out of state and the sales rep assured me that the previous owner had no extra key or any other items to go with the bike. Sucks because I would've appreciated the owner's manual and (now especially) those locks (per Sierra1's info). I bought the bike with less than 2,000 miles on it. Previous owner sure "lost" a lot of stuff quickly! :confused:
I will however:

* Take another look for the locks under the seat (I've accessed the area many times for road trip toolkit placement, but hey, ya never know, maybe I missed a crevice somewhere)
* Revisit my OEM top box key instructions to see if its lock tumbler can be keyed to my ignition
* Locate a reputable locksmith for that spare key work

Thanks again everyone!
Typically the luggage locks can be matched to your ignition by a competent locksmith w/o much fuss or cost.

Get a basic key or two made for the ignition. The ILCO blank is a X248 YM63. Spares are good and Yamaha keys are typically on the soft side and people often crack them at the point where they fit into the gas cap and luggage locks, which is a shorter depth.

Do not use the long ignition key for luggage. Get some short keys made. There is a short blank that fits the pattern, ILCO X254

On a related note, I didn't like using the main key for the gas cap so just cut down an ILCO X248 and installed a hardware store appliance knob. The knob has a set screw, plus I used some JB Weld so it would be solid, after test fitting and being happy with the length so it was flush to the gas cap lock. Then I removed the flap on the gas cap and left the short key in all the time. The knob looks like this:


Here is one of the threads with more info: LINK

BTW, a trick to doing searches on this forum is that three letter and shorter words don't search, so use related, longer words in your search. I knew I had previously posed info on keys, so I was able to use my user name to narrow the search, then used 'knob' and 'luggage locks' to find key related posts with the info I was looking for.
 
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Typically the luggage locks can be matched to your ignition by a competent locksmith w/o much fuss or cost.

Get a basic key or two made for the ignition. The ILCO blank is a X248 YM63. Spares are good and Yamaha keys are typically on the soft side and people often crack them at the point where they fit into the gas cap and luggage locks, which is a shorter depth.

Do not use the long ignition key for luggage. Get some short keys made. There is a short blank that fits the pattern, ILCO X254

On a related note, I didn't like using the main key for the gas cap so just cut down an ILCO X248 and installed a hardware store appliance knob. The knob has a set screw, plus I used some JB Weld so it would be solid, after test fitting and being happy with the length so it was flush to the gas cap lock. Then I removed the flap on the gas cap and left the short key in all the time. The knob looks like this:


Here is one of the threads with more info: LINK

BTW, a trick to doing searches on this forum is that three letter and shorter words don't search, so use related, longer words in your search. I knew I had previously posed info on keys, so I was able to use my user name to narrow the search, then used 'knob' and 'luggage locks' to find key related posts with the info I was looking for.
EricV, thanks very much for your detailed reply and for the pro tip on the search function ;-)
 

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Get a basic key or two made for the ignition. The ILCO blank is a X248 YM63. Spares are good and Yamaha keys are typically on the soft side and people often crack them at the point where they fit into the gas cap and luggage locks, which is a shorter depth.

Do not use the long ignition key for luggage. Get some short keys made. There is a short blank that fits the pattern, ILCO X254

On a related note, I didn't like using the main key for the gas cap so just cut down an ILCO X248 and installed a hardware store appliance knob.
I have short keys (ILCO X254) for my boxes (all three keyed alike, but not the same as the ignition). Anyone know if the ILCO X254 would work for the gas cap? I get a bit nervous every time I use my ignition key in the tank.
 

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I have short keys (ILCO X254) for my boxes (all three keyed alike, but not the same as the ignition). Anyone know if the ILCO X254 would work for the gas cap? I get a bit nervous every time I use my ignition key in the tank.
Yes, it will work for the gas cap. I think it's the same depth as the luggage locks, or close to it. I just used the longer key for my knob because I already had a few of those cut.
 

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Typically the luggage locks can be matched to your ignition by a competent locksmith w/o much fuss or cost.

Get a basic key or two made for the ignition. The ILCO blank is a X248 YM63. Spares are good and Yamaha keys are typically on the soft side and people often crack them at the point where they fit into the gas cap and luggage locks, which is a shorter depth.

Do not use the long ignition key for luggage. Get some short keys made. There is a short blank that fits the pattern, ILCO X254

On a related note, I didn't like using the main key for the gas cap so just cut down an ILCO X248 and installed a hardware store appliance knob. The knob has a set screw, plus I used some JB Weld so it would be solid, after test fitting and being happy with the length so it was flush to the gas cap lock. Then I removed the flap on the gas cap and left the short key in all the time. The knob looks like this:


Here is one of the threads with more info: LINK

BTW, a trick to doing searches on this forum is that three letter and shorter words don't search, so use related, longer words in your search. I knew I had previously posed info on keys, so I was able to use my user name to narrow the search, then used 'knob' and 'luggage locks' to find key related posts with the info I was looking for.
EricV: The short key blank is without question the BEST IMPROVEMENT to my travel experience. Since acquiring my S10 last year i have been frustrated with having to remove the key from the ignition each time needing access and bending my key with each use. So now my 3 short keys remain in the locks until i need to leave the bike unattended. Currently the keys have seen 2,300 miles of road, and have yet to decide to leave the cozy locks. Gamechanger!
 

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That's what this forum is about, us helping each other find new ways to enjoy the bike and sort out the little things that annoy or stress us. Glad it's worked out well for you.
 
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