Wiring in LEDs. Need a little guidance

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Hellos to All,
I got these connectors from Electrical Connections in Knoxville Tn. Very helpful folks to deal with.
I haven't taken delivery of my new '18 Tenere ES (too cold).
Does somebody out there have a picture of the fuse panel battery area showing the socket that I connect these connectors to. I'm going to be putting LEDs and a 12 volt socket for an air pump on my bike. The LED lights and 12 volt socket both have two wires, and these plugs have 3 wires (black red brown). I'm hoping for an easy install but I'm a little confused. Is the bike's plug male or female? Appreciate any help.
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Black = ground negative
Red = 12v positive battery
Brown = 12v positive on with key

The plug ins weren’t really hard to find, mine were tucked behind the wiring harness. If I looked for on the front of the bike they were plainly visible.

There is a three socket plug (meant for aux lights and fused at 20 amps) and a 4 socket plug meant for heated grips. On Es models the grips are wired in elsewhere so this is a extra available connection.

The plugs have a dummy plug cover on them (looks like a connector with no wires coming out) that you have to remove to put your connector from electrical connections on.

Let me know if this helps. I can try and get pictures tomorrow if needed.
 

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Black = ground negative
Red = 12v positive battery
Brown = 12v positive on with key

The plug ins weren’t really hard to find, mine were tucked behind the wiring harness. If I looked for on the front of the bike they were plainly visible.

There is a three socket plug (meant for aux lights and fused at 20 amps) and a 4 socket plug meant for heated grips. On Es models the grips are wired in elsewhere so this is a extra available connection.

The plugs have a dummy plug cover on them (looks like a connector with no wires coming out) that you have to remove to put your connector from electrical connections on.

Let me know if this helps. I can try and get pictures tomorrow if needed.
Yes, thank you Mak10, this most helpful and I really appreciate your support. I did find a picture of the electrical connector on the bike and it is a male plug. So, all I need to do is remove the dummy cover, insert my plug and then attach wires from my LEDs and interruptor switch. Now, the brown wire, if I don't use it, then I assume the LEDs will be on all the time with the interupter switch in the on position. I would like to have the lights on only when the key is on. What do I connect the brown wire to.?
As mentioned, the lights only have a black and a red wire.
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Yes, thank you Mak10, this most helpful and I really appreciate your support. I did find a picture of the electrical connector on the bike and it is a male plug. So, all I need to do is remove the dummy cover, insert my plug and then attach wires from my LEDs and interruptor switch. Now, the brown wire, if I don't use it, then I assume the LEDs will be on all the time with the interupter switch in the on position. I would like to have the lights on only when the key is on. What do I connect the brown wire to.?
As mentioned, the lights only have a black and a red wire.
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Use the brown wire to trigger your relay circuit.

I wired mine up so brown went to my light switch on dash, then into my relay. This makes the switch dead when key is off. I didn’t want any chance of me forgetting to turn off the lights and killing my battery.
 

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Brown wire goes to switch and then to 86. Red wire goes to 30 Black goes to 85 or ground, 87 will go to your lights

I am hoping this helps.
My lights came with a harness that connected straight to the battery. It had a relay for each light. I had to rewire it with inputs from my aux light connector. 8E993F79-EB69-4A66-AE53-B7EFDDF2A65A.png
 
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Yes, thank you Mak10, this most helpful and I really appreciate your support. I did find a picture of the electrical connector on the bike and it is a male plug. So, all I need to do is remove the dummy cover, insert my plug and then attach wires from my LEDs and interruptor switch. Now, the brown wire, if I don't use it, then I assume the LEDs will be on all the time with the interupter switch in the on position. I would like to have the lights on only when the key is on. What do I connect the brown wire to.?
As mentioned, the lights only have a black and a red wire.
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My wiring harness came with ring terminals that hooked straight to the battery. This left me with lights that could be switched on anytime key or no key. I didn’t want to forget and leave them on and run my battery flat. Or have someone turn them on while I’m away from the bike.

Did your lights come with a harness? A harness will have a switch and should include a relay/relays. I had to find the correct trigger wire going to the switch- cut it and feed it 12v with the brown wire.

At a future date I will wire in a fuse block. Just not there yet. I also used the brown wire to feed my usb/voltmeter accessory. This turns off the voltmeter with the key.

I wired my battery tender lead directly to my battery, and use this connection to power my air compressor instead of the cigarette 12v as it is not designed for the amps a compressor pulls.
 

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I used the Piaa light kit, this is how I soldered the pigtail I bought to the Piaa harness. View attachment 53126
Ah, solder and heat shrink tube. Also, there are butt connectors that are constructed of heat shrink material. In addition, I have a few of those reusable screw together type connectors. I just need to get a detailed description of how to connect the plug wires into the bike's white plastic connector. I have the plug in connector, the red and black wires go to the lights via an on/off switch, but I am told that the brown wire controls the power and causes the lights to receive power only when the key is on and that's what I want.
In addition to installing LED lights controlled by an on/off switch, I will install a 12 volt outlet on the handlebars. I think it should be OK to run this directly from the battery because it's intended use will be for an air pump which I know is too high an amperage for the 12 volt socket that comes with the bike. The socket I plan to mount will be capped most of the time. The bike's 12 volt outlet will be used to power a dash video camera and a GPS. I am hoping that these two things don't draw too much amperage.
Thoughts??
Just need some more guidance on exactly where to connect the brown wire to.
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Correct, if you go through a relay the brown wire which is only hot with the key on goes to the switch. This way the switch can only power the relay when the key is turned on so there is no fear of leaving the lights on with the key turned off. In the diagram below the blue wire would be the brown wire on our bikes and the green would be black.
 

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I used the Piaa light kit, this is how I soldered the pigtail I bought to the Piaa harness. View attachment 53126
So the red wire goes to the battery
Black wire to ground, but where, to the relay #85, or directly to the battery??
Brown wire is the trigger wire, but connects to exactly where?
Just having trouble trying to include the relay in all of this.
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The factory accessory plug is already going to ground, The black wire coming off of it goes the relay and on to the lights as shown in the schematic.
 

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The factory accessory plug is already going to ground, The black wire coming off of it goes the relay and on to the lights as shown in the schematic.
I'm not using a kit for the installation of my LED lights.
But I will use the compatible female plug connected via a relay along with an on/off switch.
It appears there are numerous ways to connect LEDs (in this case) such as PDMs, light kits or a handful of different ways.

The 3 wires that extend from the bike's aux light plug are red, black and brown.
Red and black will connect directly to the relay, red to #30, black to #85, and the brown wire goes to one side of the on/off switch, then to the relay #86 from the same side of the on/off switch.
The red wires from each light would go to power source or #87 on the relay.
The aux light plug that comes with the bike is fused at 20 AMPs, so, I don't think I need to place a fuse into the power wires to each light.
Tell me what you think.
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Can you please explain this a bit more to me: "and the brown wire goes to one side of the on/off switch, then to the relay #86 from the same side of the on/off switch."
 

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Can you please explain this a bit more to me: "and the brown wire goes to one side of the on/off switch, then to the relay #86 from the same side of the on/off switch."
Thanks for asking, because I'm not sure about this.
I have a plug connector that plugs onto the bike's aux light plug (2018 ES model). From the plug connector are three wires, red, black and brown. As I said, I believe that the brown wire goes to the on/off or interruptor switch, then from the same side of the switch back to #86 on the relay.
Tell me if this is incorrect.
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Thanks for asking, because I'm not sure about this.
I have a plug connector that plugs onto the bike's aux light plug (2018 ES model). From the plug connector are three wires, red, black and brown. As I said, I believe that the brown wire goes to the on/off or interruptor switch, then from the same side of the switch back to #86 on the relay.
Tell me if this is incorrect.
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I'm literally confused by your question about the brown wire:

Are you asking if the brown wire from the connector on the bike would extend up to one pole of a two pole switch, and then from that same pole, back down to the #86 poll on the relay?

If that's what you are asking...then I think that would be incorrect .. because what's the other pole on the switch connected to?

I'm confused because a switch typically sits in between something...if you connect a wire to only one side of it....what's it doing for you?

The drawings the others have posted earlier in this thread are pretty clear.

I'm really not trying to sound like a jerk...I'm genuinely confused by how your question is phrased and just trying to understand where you are confused so I can try to help.

Maybe you can draw your own picture of how you see everything connecting together, post that and see if we can help you work through this?
 
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