Tenman
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The hospital here is getting the vaccine tomorrow for employees. It's not going to be mandatory.
Will you take the vaccine
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gunslinger_006
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What. The. Holy. Hell.
Please name that hospital so i can never ever go there.
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Tenman
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Merit health Natchez. It's already a 2 star hospital.
gunslinger_006
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Man. That is kinda scary. I am fairly certain its going to be required here. I will look for a statement on this from my preferred hospital.
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If they've been getting their asses handed to them, like most hospitals, I'd bet nobody will refuse the vax. My oldest son is dating a covid nurse. I asked her if she was going to get the vax. The look she gave me.
Gave me a chill. She said of course, and added that "anybody that doesn't is a fucking idiot." Yeah, she's not a shy gal.She also added, we hear about people dying alone. . . . she sees it. Whole different perspective.
Cantab
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No jab for me , no need to as our Boss down here has done a fairly good job at keeping Covid out.
Yes we have had it , and its still here due to the amount of Kiwis returning home from around the world - also some essential workers, ALL that come back go straight into managed isolation for 2 weeks and must have testing with neg results before they are let out, test positive and you stay at a separate MI until negative.
I've had flu shots in the past but not in the last 10yrs , i get a cold maybe once a year, im lucky or doing something right.
Alot of world leaders have badly let down their fellow countrymen over this.
Yes we have had it , and its still here due to the amount of Kiwis returning home from around the world - also some essential workers, ALL that come back go straight into managed isolation for 2 weeks and must have testing with neg results before they are let out, test positive and you stay at a separate MI until negative.
I've had flu shots in the past but not in the last 10yrs , i get a cold maybe once a year, im lucky or doing something right.
Alot of world leaders have badly let down their fellow countrymen over this.
Love or hate your leader(s), I think it's hard to place the blame on them. A leader of a country is only as good as his cabinet/advisors. In New Zealand's case, it was a case of "size matters". Where, in this instance, smaller was better. Add in the fact that access to the country can be controlled pretty well. Y'all have 5.1-ish million people. California, alone, has eight times that, and open borders. And, you know us, "nobody's going to tell me what to do". . . . whereas your citizens knew what was good for them, and did it.
When this first started, and people here had at least a little fear of it, we were doing what was right, and the numbers were dropping. Texas was below 5% infection rate, and dropping. But, Memorial Day arrived, signaling summer was here. Even then we got the surge going back down, and then. . . . Labor Day, and some more business started back up. . . . and it was out of control from there. Without the vax, everybody in the U.S. will get it sooner or later, because you're not going to tell us what to do.
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RonH
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I doubt I'll get the vaccine. First have to wait a couple years to see if the vaccine kills more people than the virus itself. By 2 years time the virus will be over anyway, since everyone will have already had it. Wear your masks and think you are not going to get it is for definate sure doing zero to prevent the spread contrary to the popularity of the idea.
MattR
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You have an amazing PM in NZ. She’s admired all over the world
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ballisticexchris
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Clever wording Ron. I see you left out the part that if you are a carrier and spreading this deadly disease. If you or your household are having human contact outside your home, there is a real possibility of getting and spreading COVID. This is not an opinion. It's a scientific fact that cannot be disputed or argued except with a lie or idiocy.
If everyone wears a mask, is upwind from others, and does not breathe in droplets, then there is no possible way to get it. This is why we are wearing masks. The vaccine is another safety measure that I pray that will be required and enforced just like the 10 or so other required vaccines.
I don't like this either but I have made the safe and smart choice to do everything humanly possible to preserve lives other than my own. The ones I feel for are those that don't have a choice and have to expose themselves to these stupid idiots who refuse to take precautions.
In 2 years the virus will be over? Sounds to me like something CNN reporter Omar Jimenez or Jim Acosta would say. Again gullible public believing the phony news from 2 reporters who make a living assaulting Law Enforcement and White House employees and lying to the public.
PhilPhilippines
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On the other hand there are, of course, those that encourage Law Enforcement to assault, encourage White House employees to not wear masks and lie to public...
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ballisticexchris
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I can't disagree with that! Of course encouraging and doing are two different things.
gunslinger_006
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Slow clap.
I lack the patience to word a reply to that post as well formed as yours.
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Boris
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Have to agree with this, she has done a great job. I also think that New Zealander’s in the main, all stood together to deal with this, united in facing and beating the difficulties they faced.
Sadly, here in the UK, there’s so many that we have to drag behind us, kicking and screaming. Every step we take forward as a nation, the far too significant few, drag us back a bit. IMO we have an excessive number of incredibly selfish people among us. This is also the picture I’m getting of the US.
MattR
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Correct. This mentality was introduced to the UK by Thatcher when she sold off all the council housing stock and didn’t allow councils to use the money to build more. She was the first one to attack the red wall by closing the mines and vilification of Scargill. It encouraged people to only think about the welfare of their family bubble (who cares about anyone else, they had the same opportunities I had)
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Boris
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Disagree, I see it as a Labour and the left issue. Everyone’s a victim mentality, where you just expect handouts. All societies have an element of people truly in need of help, I’m pretty sure most of us have zero issues with assisting these people. Unfortunately our society has far too many parasites, who put nothing in, have no intention of putting in, but will take out everything possible, also taking from those truly in need.
azb
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My doc, a very well known immunologist, has recommended I wait for the second gen vaccine. He said, "The first round of vaccines historically has the highest chance of side effects and the lowest effectiveness. Wait."
He has also pointed out that although I'm in my 60s, I have no co morbidity factors, and my chance of surviving the infection is roughly 99.95%.
I'll get the vaccine, I get all the vaccines. I am no anti vaxxer. But I'm going to give this one some time. It's clearly being rushed.
He has also pointed out that although I'm in my 60s, I have no co morbidity factors, and my chance of surviving the infection is roughly 99.95%.
I'll get the vaccine, I get all the vaccines. I am no anti vaxxer. But I'm going to give this one some time. It's clearly being rushed.
richarddacat
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I've dropped in on this tread a few times as its progressed and have (edit) read all the responses but it's become just as political as the outside world has.
Heres my experience;
I've had the virus or rather tested positive. I'm 62 and healthy besides a few bum joints. My symptoms consisted of a sinus headache, dry cough and fatigue. I got over it in 10 days.
I was in contact with a person at work who went out the next day by testing positive, he was an avid mask wearer. He was 50 and survived. Three days after being in contact with him I began to feel bad and decided to get tested. Quarantine was the only prescription for my symptoms and was I told to go to the emergency room if my symptoms increase. I had no fever. Of course I don't know if it was him who gave it to me or how I got it.
It took 3 days for my test to come back and I was within contact with 7 other people including my wife. None of them became sick and my wife stayed with me during my 10 day of illness, she also got tested and was negative.
I know of several people who have tested positive and survived and I know of one man who has died who was 58. My wife lets me know of any of her FB friends, friends relatives or contacts who have passed and roughly 4 have that were elderly. I also heard stories of some elderly people getting sick and surviving. Of course I'm not denying all those that have died of covid or complications from it. I do think testing positive should not be counted and advertised everyday but instead count the hospitalizations.
Heres my experience;
I've had the virus or rather tested positive. I'm 62 and healthy besides a few bum joints. My symptoms consisted of a sinus headache, dry cough and fatigue. I got over it in 10 days.
I was in contact with a person at work who went out the next day by testing positive, he was an avid mask wearer. He was 50 and survived. Three days after being in contact with him I began to feel bad and decided to get tested. Quarantine was the only prescription for my symptoms and was I told to go to the emergency room if my symptoms increase. I had no fever. Of course I don't know if it was him who gave it to me or how I got it.
It took 3 days for my test to come back and I was within contact with 7 other people including my wife. None of them became sick and my wife stayed with me during my 10 day of illness, she also got tested and was negative.
I know of several people who have tested positive and survived and I know of one man who has died who was 58. My wife lets me know of any of her FB friends, friends relatives or contacts who have passed and roughly 4 have that were elderly. I also heard stories of some elderly people getting sick and surviving. Of course I'm not denying all those that have died of covid or complications from it. I do think testing positive should not be counted and advertised everyday but instead count the hospitalizations.
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ballisticexchris
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Here is my experience:
My wife's uncle in Idaho contracted COVID and died shortly after contracting it. He was very healthy, an avid skier, and had no underlying conditions. He died shortly after going on a respirator. All my physician's have told both my wife and I that this is a death sentence for almost anyone that catches it and goes on a respirator. There are a few very rare cases that can quarantine and be OK.
Every single doctor I have spoken to is getting the vaccine as soon as it's available. They also suggest that my wife and I get it as it becomes available. It is already proven to be safe and effective.
I tend to listen to my doctor more than I would someone who comes on a forum and gripes about their rights and admits they don't care about anyone than themselves.
My wife's uncle in Idaho contracted COVID and died shortly after contracting it. He was very healthy, an avid skier, and had no underlying conditions. He died shortly after going on a respirator. All my physician's have told both my wife and I that this is a death sentence for almost anyone that catches it and goes on a respirator. There are a few very rare cases that can quarantine and be OK.
Every single doctor I have spoken to is getting the vaccine as soon as it's available. They also suggest that my wife and I get it as it becomes available. It is already proven to be safe and effective.
I tend to listen to my doctor more than I would someone who comes on a forum and gripes about their rights and admits they don't care about anyone than themselves.
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