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will you take the vaccine

  • yes

    Votes: 91 37.0%

  • no

    Votes: 24 9.8%

  • maybe later

    Votes: 21 8.5%

  • heck no

    Votes: 30 12.2%

  • BTDT - Got the shot

    Votes: 80 32.5%
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Sierra1

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I've seen that too. Whether you want the vax, or not, it's got to piss you off. . . . that the politician are deciding medical actions. I think Mr. Bertrand is right. . . . any deviation of the FDA approved dosage can't be Kosher. Being that this is the land of litigation, I would think they would be taking on a shit ton of liability with any deviation. Can you imagine if a person only gets one dose. . . . catches covid. . . . and dies? Think that the family isn't going to sue everybody that prevented the approved second dose?
 
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MattR

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It’s not the politicians that are deciding the doses. The science agrees that if one dose gives you 72% then by holding off on the second dose you can give double the people that 72% protection. The Oxford professor also said that extending the gap between the two jabs it will increase efficacy.


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Then, if the the science knew this, they should have applied for approval of single doses. Do it right the first time, and there might not be a second time. If they had started inoculating as soon as the vaccines became available, they wouldn't be scrambling now. . . . in the U.S. at least.
 
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The doctors involved in the project warped speed, have suggested that people in the age group of 18-55 be given initially only a single dose in an attempt to get more vaccinated with a partial efficacy with the supply they have. They are thinking that will slow down the spread. This is the current British thinking, and they have implemented it. I am not sure that is our issue, at least here in America. Currently it seems we have the supply, but as usual, everyone has their hand in the pot on how to distribute, and dispense it, which of course makes it worse. Nothing has been done beyond the talking stage at this point.

The Astrazeneca one, which is not approved in the U.S. currently, and will not for at least another month or two, is the one that they found out that giving only a half dose on the first shot, then the full amount on the second one gives an efficacy of 90%+. Two full shots the efficacy is 62%. It was found out by mistake, but in the trails, where you want to find out stuff like that.
 
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Johnwesley said:
The two approved are supposed to be three weeks apart but in the article I linked to the UK is doing months and some articles say the USA is doing one dose and make not event do the second. Some I have read are saying a full dose first while the studies are saying 1/2 dose and then 2-3weeks later a full dose. Not saying it’s factual just what I am reading and we all k ow if it’s on the net it’s true :)
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Technically Pfizer recommends 3 weeks and Moderna 4 weeks. They are not both 3 weeks. Whether they are being used off label will depend on the specific indications that the FDA approved, usually this includes dosing.

Matt R said: "The Oxford professor also said that extending the gap between the two jabs it will increase efficacy"

I wonder which vaccines that applies to? I doubt it's a blanket statement and if it is, what data supports it? He may be speculating based on experience with other vaccines. The 1/2 dose first shot and full strength second dose Astra Zenica is looking at seems like it might cause additional complexity in the already challenging distribution. Now they'll have to track, distribute and match two different products per patient.
 
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fac191

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Ohh my dna is going to change, how do you think we got here in the first place. We are mutants. Especially white europeans who have Neanderthal DNA. Unfortunately some peoples brains seem to be Neanderthal only.
 
MattR

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Yeah but what about the chips? I don’t want to become a drone controlled by central government. Not sure which government, maybe all of them! Jesus, I could end up being controlled by the North Koreans! Anyway, it’s all fake. There is no virus, it’s just flu. Or is flu fake as well? Maybe I got chipped when I had the flu vaccine?


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I’ll have the covid vaccine. I had the flu vaccine yesterday because a substantial proportion of covid deaths in the UK are because patients had flu principally, then got covid on top. I just wish we had isolated the 5% vulnerable people instead of everybody. A major acute hospital costs around £350m. So we could have had a thousand new hospitals for the £350bn cost of lockdowns (government support, lost tax revenues). And that’s a conservative estimate of the cost – I reckon it’ll be over £500bn and heading towards a £trillion by the end of this. Absolute madness.
 
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Mak10 said:
And I have a question. Once you are vaccinated, will you resume life as before the pandemic? Will you feel safe?

Why or why not?

If someone has had this virus and recovered. Do you feel they should isolate?
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I got the first shot (Pfizer) today - so in about 4 weeks I should be as covered as I can be - for a while anyway.
Evidence indicate that I most likely won't be able to transfer virus when I'm fully covered by the vaccine.
Despite that I won't be able to resume life as before the pandemic, as all the restrictions still apply to me.

I don't feel unsafe now, but I'll be even more comfortable when I've been vaccinated - especially because I'm less likely to infect others.

Based on what I read about the subject I think it would be wise for people who have been infected and have recovered to behave as they would otherwise. It appears that people who have been really sick by Covid19 has a high level of antibodies for a long time, while people who had no or mild symptoms often have no or a low level of antibodies after a couple of month.
Unless you are in one of those extremes when you get sick, you have no idea of knowing if you are immune after having recovered.
 
Mak10

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I appreciate your answer. The latest “studies” I’ve read about indicate that reinfection is extremely rare. Which makes sense to my simple logic of why a vaccine would work.

If you had Covid and have recovered, I can understand why one would feel no need to isolate, wear a mask and other precautions.

In my opinion people love a “the sky is falling” crisis, the media makes money off of sensational, propaganda style news, either left or right. Politicians use whatever “study” and limited data to promote themselves and agendas.

The state of our country is at a boiling point I’ve never seen. That scares me. More so than the pandemic.
 
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Mak10 said:
I appreciate your answer. The latest “studies” I’ve read about indicate that reinfection is extremely rare. Which makes sense to my simple logic of why a vaccine would work.

If you had Covid and have recovered, I can understand why one would feel no need to isolate, wear a mask and other precautions.

In my opinion people love a “the sky is falling” crisis, the media makes money off of sensational, propaganda style news, either left or right. Politicians use whatever “study” and limited data to promote themselves and agendas.

The state of our country is at a boiling point I’ve never seen. That scares me. More so than the pandemic.
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Mak10 from here it looks scary. Looks like some people are up for another Civil War.
 
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