Will you take the vaccine

[WJBertrand]

Wife and I just got our bivalet Moderna Fauci ouchies a week ago today. We skipped the second booster and instead waited for the bivalent as our 4th shot. We’re both in our 60s and my wife has some pretty serious preexisting health issues. Neither of us have been sick with Covid, though my wife had a bout of Montezuma’s revenge after a Mexican cruise trip. We had no side effects from the shot other than a little soreness at the injection site.

My education and background is in the area of molecular biology, biotechnology and medical technology. Most of what you read on the net is obviously written and spread by folks with no such background.


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[AusTexS10]

Looks like I jumped into the Hiveminded again. So none of you are aware of VAERS and all the young previously healthy athletes dropping dead around the world? Wow. I have worked this entire time with no mask, no vax, no nada. I visit 80 businesses a week and see 100 people a day. No Covid. I am happy that you are happy but this is a little weird.

I'm glad you're a lucky person. It can happen as it has for you, but you must and apparently do accept the associated risk. There are many reports of VAERS data being misused by some anti-vax orgs and people, but read this from Johns Hopkins, a highly respected source of medical information, at least for medical professionals, regarding just what you highlighted. "VAERS data also first surfaced reports of myocarditis following the second dose of COVID-19 mRNA vaccine. After extensive review, scientists determined that the benefits of the vaccine ultimately outweigh the increased risk of myocarditis observed in some of the vaccinated (primarily males ages 12–29).
Moreover, additional studies show the risk of myocarditis to be 16 times greater among those infected with COVID-19 than the uninfected, suggesting that full vaccination is helpful in preventing myocarditis and other complications of the disease." (https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2022/what-vaers-is-and-isnt)

So much for cherry-picking to support one's position, but I am truly happy it has worked out for you.

 

[WJBertrand]

There are a lot of selectable search criteria/filters on the VAERS site in various drop boxes. It takes close attention and knowledge of the terminology to determine the correct filters to eliminate other vaccines, unrelated variables, etc from the search results.


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[moto.monk]

Crazy that x10 this or x30 that doesn't matter when you actually look at the numbers. Even the CDC admits that a jab(s) provides only additional immunity after you get infected. I think it's more of psychological thing to get people to comply. Sheep will be sheep, I mean sheeple, I mean I like staples.

 

[Sierra1]

. . . . Yes, I understand that covid varies widely from person to person. . . .

. . . . and all the young previously healthy athletes dropping dead around the world? Wow. I have worked this entire time with no mask, no vax, no nada. I visit 80 businesses a week and see 100 people a day. No Covid. . . .

My original comment still stands. Too many variables from person to person. Even type-O blood shows to be more resistant than other types. Young, healthy athletes suddenly dying? That's been happening wa-a-ay before covid. Which also proves that not everybody is the same genetically.

But, you asked if anybody regretted their vaccinations. We answered. Only to be ridiculed. Everybody is entitled to their opinion. If we're good about our decision, why should that matter to you?

 

[Sierra1]

. . . . Even the CDC admits that a jab(s) provides only additional immunity after you get infected. . . .

That's not an admission. That's a statement of fact. It was never intended to prevent infection. It was to prevent death. The only people that I personally know that have died from covid, and there's been too many, have been unvaccinated.

 

[regder]

It’s sad, the anti-vax crowd immediately jumps on any unexpected death as being caused by the vax. Even when the person was hit by a car

 

[moto.monk]

That's not an admission. That's a statement of fact. It was never intended to prevent infection. It was to prevent death. The only people that I personally know that have died from covid, and there's been too many, have been unvaccinated.

Correct the cdc changed this well over a year ago.. actually you have a greater chance to die from the flu then this lab made junk.

 

[moto.monk]

It’s sad, the anti-vax crowd immediately jumps on any unexpected death as being caused by the vax. Even when the person was hit by a car

Also comorbinities how dare they, also the risk factors from taking the jab.

 

[regder]

Correct the cdc changed this well over a year ago.. actually you have a greater chance to die from the flu then this lab made junk.

U.S. life expectancy in 2020 registered its biggest one-year drop since World War Two, with COVID-related deaths contributing nearly 75% to the decline.

U.S. life expectancy fell further in 2021 due to COVID

Life expectancy fell in the United States in 2021 to its lowest since 1996, the second year of a historic retreat due to COVID-19 deaths, provisional government data showed on Wednesday.

www.reuters.com

 

[Sierra1]

. . . . actually you have a greater chance to die from the flu then this lab made junk.

If the "lab made junk" you refer to is covid, sadly, that is not true. I too believe that covid started in a lab, but that's a whole 'nuther conversation. But I don't know anybody that has died from the flu. Like I said, I personally know too many people that have died from covid.

 

[regder]

United States: COVID-19 weekly death rate by vaccination status

Death rates are calculated as the number of deaths in each group, divided by the total number of people in this group. This is given per 100,000 people.

ourworldindata.org

 

[Sierra1]

Didn't know there was a spike in July. Our news doesn't even give daily/weekly updates anymore.

 

[moto.monk]

If the "lab made junk" you refer to is covid, sadly, that is not true. I too believe that covid started in a lab, but that's a whole 'nuther conversation. But I don't know anybody that has died from the flu. Like I said, I personally know too many people that have died from covid.

Like someone just posted I love your advice but i would advice your to rethink you thoughts. This is a big money grab. I love capitalism but it has its faults. I would advice you to look at cdc stats and how more deaths have been caused by the flu. This is objective facts.

 

[Wallkeeper]

ZERO regrets getting the shots

Friday spousal unit and I are getting boosted again and old fogey flu shot

to me the statistical data says risk is minimal. Of course, we always hear “anecdotal” data otherwise. Isn’t the internet wonderful?

 

[regder]

I would advice you to look at cdc stats and how more deaths have been caused by the flu. This is objective facts.

You had me curious, CDC seems to disagree with your statement

Preliminary Flu Burden Estimates, 2021-22 Season

The overall burden of influenza (flu) for the 2021-2022 season was an estimated 9 million flu illnesses, 4 million flu-related medical visits, 100,000 flu-related hospitalizations & 5,000 flu deaths

www.cdc.gov

Year by year flu deaths

Past Seasons Estimated Influenza Disease Burden | CDC

These page includes information about the estimated burden of influenza from past seasons, including tables of the estimated influenza disease burden (and 95% credible interval [Cr I]) by age group.

www.cdc.gov

 

[regder]

People are truly this easy to manipulate and if so then they do not deserve chicken mcnugget freedom.

Huh? You literally said

"I would advice you to look at cdc stats and how more deaths have been caused by the flu. This is objective facts"

so I did. Do you have other CDC stats that you are referring to?

 

[moto.monk]

Lol my post was deleted by admins. Some would say I have chicken nuggets but some would say I have chicken tendies. This is funny as fuck. This is the reason I exist. This is even more then serra1 can handle

 

[Wallkeeper]

Reminder.
Keep it on topic.
Keep it polite.
Insults WILL NOT be tolerated

 

[bimota]

i,m going for my 4th jab next monday, i had my yearly flu jab last week, i,ve had type 1 diabetes for 50 yrs and have circulation issues now
so i,m happy to have mine

rob