Who needs a GSA?

[colorider]

They do. It will be the second coat for my garbage cans. Although, I was hoping for something a little more .... uh .... expensive? ::003:: R

We can head to Wally World for the BLUE expensive stuff to use on your bike....... ::022::

 

[Wanderer]

Howdy,
Heard back from Peg Packer. Their set up will need a specific bracket for the Tenere. They hope to have one in a couple of months.
Later,
Norm

 

[~TABASCO~]

That looks pretty good.. I have the room for that, might have to try that out ! ::008::

 

[Checkswrecks]

I'm not sure that keeping the aux fuel containers empty completely removes the hazard unless you actually make sure they're "totally dry" empty. Gasoline fumes are extremely explosive and a few ounces of residual fuel sloshing around in the bottom of a rotopax could be exactly what is needed for the container to be at the optimal mix for an explosion.

I don't think you need to go crazy worrying about safety, but sticking those packs on the side of the engine, down near the ground at one of the "first strike" points in an accident just strikes me as ill-advised, whether they routinely used or not.

- Mark

Not trying to stoke the fires, (couldn't help the pun! ) or
::002::
But having examined three fuel tank explosions, I think folks will find this interesting:


Believe it or not and contrary to popular belief, this is backwards. The inside of a gasoline tank with pretty much ANY liquid gasoline is too rich for combustion until the temperature is REALLY extreme! Not true for diesel or Jet-A. Of course, strike a spark near the outlet or at a point of leakage and you'll likely start a great fire.


Likewise, if you think running a dead empty tank is safest, you're probably wrong. This is especially true with some of the plastic tanks, as the plastic can absorb some of the fuel and release the vapors when empty. Being empty can bring the interior of the tank down from "too rich" to a mixture that can easily ignite.


Again, not something to really worry about, as there's usually at least a few teaspoonfuls of gas in the bottom too keep things too rich, but an interesting bit of trivia.

 

[Koinz]

Not trying to stoke the fires, (couldn't help the pun! ) or
::002::
But having examined three fuel tank explosions, I think folks will find this interesting:


Believe it or not and contrary to popular belief, this is backwards. The inside of a gasoline tank with pretty much ANY liquid gasoline is too rich for combustion until the temperature is REALLY extreme! Not true for diesel or Jet-A. Of course, strike a spark near the outlet or at a point of leakage and you'll likely start a great fire.

Likewise, if you think running a dead empty tank is safest, you're probably wrong. This is especially true with some of the plastic tanks, as the plastic can absorb some of the fuel and release the vapors when empty. Being empty can bring the interior of the tank down from "too rich" to a mixture that can easily ignite.

I agree with your statement regarding a full tank of gasoline is safer than an empty one. We use to solder gas tanks to repair leaks. they were full of fuel. Gasoline Vapor is highly explosive.

The one statement that you made regarding diesel fuel. The only way diesel will burn is if it's atomized (sprayed through a nozzle at high pressure). I have thrown lit matches in diesel fuel and it just goes out.

 

[pluric]

Another repeat of some mods from another thread.
I had some Wolfman tank panniers lying around and was trying to find
a use for them on the S10. The tank is too wide and I didn't want to block
the cooling system.

http://www.wolfmanluggage.com/Tank/tank_panniers.html

They fit perfect around the factory bags. Straps go under and felt very secure.
Quick release if you needed to open the lid. These have a one quart bottle? (maybe larger)
There is plenty of room to put a larger bottle.

I also had a Kolpin soft bag for their one gallon water or gas cans.
Fits great over a Givi square box. Carries the weight a little high, but a good option.

 

[pluric]

This set up would also hold a lot of extra gas with the can inside.
I think you could get a 2 1/2 gallon gas can in one bag.

Just some heavy duty flat bottom duffels from Recreational Outlet.

 

[~TABASCO~]

Thats pretty cool ! ::008::

 

[pluric]

Since I had not really decided on how I was going to carry extra fuel I tried a few
options out tonight.

Going back to the bag set up I mentioned above here is what fits.

Three one gallon cans fit nice and snug.

On the pannier.

With a 2 1/2 gallon can it has room for some other stuff.

1, 1 1/2 and 2 1/2 gallon can options.

I forgot about this one on a shelf in my garage. ATV bolt mount that I added straps
to go under a passenger seat or on top of a pannier. 2 1/2 gallon Quick release base.

If I did this Kolpin/Rotopax type set up I would put the mounts on the trunk.
Half twist and the can is off to open the trunk.

I have this behind the Givi mount on my KLR that works great.
I agree with the other forum member that thought the rear brake
and swing arm would hit it on the factory bag gap. Too bad.

 

[colorider]

Since I had not really decided on how I was going to carry extra fuel I tried a few
options out tonight.

Going back to the bag set up I mentioned above here is what fits.

Three one gallon cans fit nice and snug.

On the pannier.

That's a lot of weight up high! Sure like those bags though!!!

 

[rem]

yep, you'd be just shy of 30 pounds I figure just for the fuel and containers. I dunno ... sounds better in kgs. That would be about 12 of those. Not so bad. ::003:: R

 

[pluric]

That's a lot of weight up high! Sure like those bags though!!!

I've never needed that much extra gas. I did carry 2 1/2 extra gallons on an Alaska ride
with a V Strom. Used it twice. Just throwing some options out there.

The higher mount is protected in a tip over. As far as the weight up high in motion
it's not that big of a deal. Drop the bike and maybe picking it up could be an issue.
Pop the bags off if you had to.

I guess loading a bike high has never bothered me.