I had to stay close before the Dirt Dads wake of dirt rises to edible levels..lol.. I don't mind following the local riders that know the roads since I usually learn where the better roads are as well as get an education on some of the towns ...Dirt_Dad said:I know I found George to be pretty unshakable on a dirt road. I have no doubt he'd be a good ride leader for you Alan anytime schedules would allow it to happen.