Tourance Next?

[nga]

Initial impressions?

The rear tire gave me confidence on the wet roads. I only rode about 100 miles. Some of the roads had standing water and it poured as I headed home. I ride several forest service roads so, I'll see how they do in the gravel.

 

[avc8130]

Well, unfortunately I couldn't find a set of Tourance Next in stock and I NEED new tires so I ordered up some Anakee 3s.

I went with the "H" rated tires since I don't think the Tenere even goes fast enough to warrant the "V" rating.

Dallara,

Do you know which rating your tires have?

ac

 

[Dallara]

Well, unfortunately I couldn't find a set of Tourance Next in stock and I NEED new tires so I ordered up some Anakee 3s.

I went with the "H" rated tires since I don't think the Tenere even goes fast enough to warrant the "V" rating.

Dallara,

Do you know which rating your tires have?

ac

My Anakee 3's are "V" rated.

And on another note about them. The earlier nasty tendency they had to let loose when they are way over on the edge gets a little better as they get some more excessive miles on them, or maybe I've just gotten more used to them and have compensated. I've got almost 4,000 miles on these Anakee 3's now and I don't seem have as many "pucker" moments over their edges as I used to when I first got 'em.

A couple of other observations on the Anakee 3's now that I have some more mileage on them...

1.) I do think they are better off-road than the Metzeler Tourance EXP's. If I had to quantify it I'd say about 15 to 20% better, especially in a straight line.
2.) I think I'm going to get more mileage out of the rear Anakee 3 than the Tourance EXP. If I had to guess I's say it's gonna' make it to around 7,000 miles.
3.) Unfortunately it looks like the front Anakee 3 is going to have *MUCH* worse mileage than the Tourance EXP. In fact, it may wear out before the rear. It does stick well, though.
4.) Despite what Michelin says, the rear squares off like any other tire. And my mix of slab to twisties to off-road has been about normal. In fact, I have probably ridden more off-road with these Anakee 3's than I have with any of my sets of the Tourance EXP's.
5.) I've ridden some in the rain with the Anakee 3's now, too. I find them no better and no worse than the Metzeler's. I will say I have not had them way over on the edge in the rain, though.

That's about it for now.

Dallara



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[avc8130]

I'm finishing up this POS Battlewing I have on the rear this week and will probably swap it out, along with the Tourance I have up front, on Friday.

I should probably start a new thread with my A3 experiences.

ac

 

[Z06]

Best tires I have had on my Super T to this point are TR91,s. great grip and good wear.

 

[avc8130]

Best tires I have had on my Super T to this point are TR91,s. great grip and good wear.

Is that the Dunlop Trailmax?

Maybe I'll try that next. With my ~6k mile average life I'll need them soon enough.

ac

 

[clint64]

Best tires I have had on my Super T to this point are TR91,s. great grip and good wear.

I was looking at those as a possible replacement. What sort of mileage did you get on the set?

 

[Banzai600]

I have had the Tourance EXP's on the S10 now since I bought it. I havent gotten to knock up much mileage ( 6500 mls ) maybe. That includes a trip to a very very very wet & icy / snowy scotland. Ive used them in all weathers and even out for a Sunday blast ascross the mountains with the pocket rocket crew ( TCS off and mode 2 ). No worries re grip!

The EXP's have to be one of the best tyres on the makret. Ive ridden all sorts of sports tyres and these ones are up there. They may not fit my ducati but they behave / inspire like they should for the bike they were intended. The ONLY problem with the EXP's - they square off a little quickly. :lamp:BUT then, the bikes we're riding throw out a fair few ponies and are big machines :lamp:

I will be moving to "NEXT" now over the next couple of weeks.

But yeah, EXP's rock, so the NEXT should be better (?). I will update as I go when they're fitted.

(current EXP's - no chicken strips applicable ) 8)

 

[loop]

There seems to be one flavor of the Next (V rated), whereas the EXP
had a special C spec for the Tenere. Anyone know what's different
about a C spec EXP, and whether or not that's important when selecting
a Next (or any other tire not officially blessed by Yamaha for the Tenere)?

 

[Firefight911]

Loop, what is important is the speed and load rating along with the correct size.

A 'C' spec or, for that matter, and spec tire is one that has been developed by a tire manufacturer in conjunction with a vehicle manufacturer with the goal of providing a tire a specific handling characteristic for a specific model of of vehicle.

Most often a spec tire has the same load and speed rating as a non spec tire.



Sent from my Windows phone. Spelling errors guaranteed.

 

[Andylaser]

Just had a set of the Tourance Next tyres fitted today. The original Bridgestone was toast after only 4K miles. Not sure why is wore so quickly, but possibly down to lots of urban commuting miles. Strangely, the rear looked good for another 3 or 4 K miles. It did piss me somewhat to junk a rear tyre with decent miles left on it, but mixing tyres can be a whole can of worms on its own.

Anyway, within 5 miles, I was over my initial misery. The matched set of Nexts were brilliant. The bike handling has improved no end. The bike seems to drop into corners far better (and a little quicker) than before. But it does it so smoothly and gently that it just inspires confidence in the tyres. I have a 100 mile trip to undertake on Sunday and am looking forward to seeing how the bike behaves with the new rubber.

In summary: "Hell yeah". ::014::

 

[Tombraider2]

There a 90/10 right ? I'm at 10K on my Stockers and need new tires. I plan on some dirt road riding now, how are these ?

 

[Xt1200zsupertenere]

There a 90/10 right ? I'm at 10K on my Stockers and need new tires. I plan on some dirt road riding now, how are these ?

I loved Them on tarmac , BUT outside the roads that are crap .... if you plankning go outside the " black roads " : buy something else

 

[Davesax36]

I think if actual dirt is involved, the current top choice is the mitas e-07.

 

[Defekticon]

I have almost 6k on my Tourance NEXT's (almost spot on 90/10) and I love them for touring. Hard wearing tire resists flatspotting, good in the rain and I've ridden offroad with them. Nothing technical, but no problems on fire roads and non muddy or overly technical terrain. I commute to work a few times a month (~200 Heavy loaded hwy miles round trip) which is where most of my mileage is coming from. Riding on the stock tires like that wore them flat and cupped the front. I agree if you're going to ride more than 90/10, step right over to a 50/50 tire like the Mitas e-07.

 

[snakebitten]

When off-road is the subject regarding tires, I always want to ask what do you mean by off-road.

Because technically speaking, we usually call it off-road when what we really mean is the path is not paved!

But there are 2 kinds of off-road in my mind. (Both being unpaved, of course)

1. The unpaved surface that street tires do just fine on.
2. The unpaved surface where street tires will likely result in robbing you of the fun of off-road.

I think we all know down deep inside which tires do what when we just LOOK at them. ::013::

But the tire threads are still some of my favorites. We are a funny species.

 

[Defekticon]

When off-road is the subject regarding tires, I always want to ask what do you mean by off-road.

Because technically speaking, we usually call it off-road when what we really mean is the path is not paved!

But there are 2 kinds of off-road in my mind. (Both being unpaved, of course)

1. The unpaved surface that street tires do just fine on.
2. The unpaved surface where street tires will likely result in robbing you of the fun of off-road.

I think we all know down deep inside which tires do what when we just LOOK at them. ::013::

But the tire threads are still some of my favorites. We are a funny species.

When I read eemsreno's 2015 Alaska trip report on ADV Rider I was paying attention to what other riders were sporting on their trip. You could tell which guys were doing what based on the tires they had on their bike.

That said I saw plenty of less than 50/50 tires on Super 10's on the way up there. When I think 90/10, I think 90 on-road and 10 of option 1 listed above. This is absolutely true of the Tourance Next in my opinion, and (Unfortunately) my riding style. I just don't get more than the occasional weekend to ride offroad in option 2 unpaved surfaces and I can't justify wearing out a nice set of 50/50 or better tires to cover that one weekend every so often.

Now... if I had a second set of wheels, then it's on.

 

[snakebitten]

I completely understand! And excellent post.

I guess what I was stating is that you CAN ride one of the Big Pigs "off-road" with less off-road tread than someone else, and still get the bike to transport you.
Or put another way, run what you brung!
But the amount of pleasure each tire affords is visibly predictable, to some degree.

Again, it's the term "off-road" that causes the tire threads to be so rich with seeming conflicting opinions.

My driveway is looooong and off-road. If it hasn't rained, you can have FUN on it with an 80/20 no problem.
Let it get soaked, and it's a very much different experience perched on 600lbs of street rubber.
I can ride it with any tire, of course.

I love knobbies though. Everyone around here knows I love destroying the driveway. Just gives me a reason to play on the tractor.

 

[Checkswrecks]

Snake -
These guys oughta see Scotty ride his Ton-ere on dirt with Pilot Roads.

 

[eemsreno]

Snake has seen Scotty on dirt, and a nice hole in his leg.

I'm a fan of the right tire for the job.