The End of the Super Ténéré..................

[AVGeek]

I didn't find the Desert tan color all that exciting, but the Cobalt Blue is nice, I remember when the FJR was offered in that color...

 

[TheBeast]

I don't think that the end is coming for the S10 as we know it.
While reading through the Yamaha 2017 news in the following link

http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news-new-bikes/new-colours-2017-yamahas

A, I think a very important, last sentence hit me:
"All the mentioned 2017 models comply with Euro4 regulations."

An upgrade to Euro4 means that they upgraded some things on the 2017 S10.
Engine? Exhaust? Software? A combination of 2 or 3 of these items? Whatever they did it did cost them research AND MONEY!

So: Why would Yamaha upgrade the S10 to the Euro4 regulations if they plan to drop it in 2018?

 

[Dogdaze]

So: Why would Yamaha upgrade the S10 to the Euro4 regulations if they plan to drop it in 2018?

As the OP, I did say that the MFK dept had no specs on the 2017 MY from Yamaha, which the tester implied that generally means the end of production line for a vehicle model, and if as he suggested that the engine was not Euro 4 compliant, that made sense. The fact that they are now making the engine Euro 4 compliant in 2017/2018 suggests that something has to give, either further noise or power restrictions........ or both.

 

[Kiyoti]

2017 Yamaha Super Tenere ES Motorcycle Walkaround AIMExpo 2016

https://youtu.be/A9lppDvkvNU

 

[JRE]

Doesn't appear that anything has changed...observable from the video anyway

 

[Checkswrecks]

Doesn't appear that anything has changed...observable from the video anyway

BNG


[Bold New Graphics]

 

[Spork]

Doesn't appear that anything has changed...observable from the video anyway

Sounds like Yamaha

 

[creggur]

Haven't been around here in a good long while - good to see some things never change. I think there have been rumors of the Tenere's demise since I got mine in '12...

::021::

 

[limey]

Haven't been around here in a good long while - good to see some things never change. I think there have been rumors of the Tenere's demise since I got mine in '12...

::021::

Every year.

 

[gustojunk]

I love my 13 Tenere, but lets be honest. It is a 98 HP , 1200cc bike that weighs nearly 600 pounds. It is a fantastic ride and really performs great after a reflash (i have a 13) , but with the competition blowing it out of the water in terms of performance, I cant see how they will sell many at $15500 or whatever US retail price is now. I would just buy a KTM at that price, and the only thing I would miss about the yamaha is the shaft drive.

why do I own a 13 S10 then? because at last years blowout prices, it was the best ADV value ever in the history of ADV bikes and for the roiughly $8500 it cost me to buy it, I could not fathom a better bang for the buck. but $15500? uh,. no

But will it be shaft drive?

I love my S10, it's the perfect road/traveling bike, but I will admit that when I see something a bit lighter used off-road and on the trails like an AfricaTwin or the new KTM 1090 I makes me want to go a bit smaller/lighter. The S10 does great off-road but it's a heavy beast to handle (exhausting physically).

Next dream bike: A nimbler S10 successor with a DCT Transmission like the Africa Twin and the shaft-drive. But that would be too costly so probably it'll never happen.

...in the meantime I'm considering getting a WR250R as a little sister to my S10. Both with matching blue dresses )

 

[RonH]

Lighter weight would not hurt, but can't get rid of shaft drive. Dual clutch has no appeal to me any more than a dumb new car or truck that people too lazy or stupid to drive buy. Please kill the dual clutch idea before motorcycles are ruined by lazy like cars/trucks. I guess for me not all bad, I used to buy a new truck every few years, now since all are automatic, I buy a new truck never and will die with my 1997 model even if I live 50 more years.Don't contribute to ruining motorcycles by wanting a DCT. We already have ABS, and traction control for lazy and stupid, I don't need more of that crap. Sorry, old rider rant. Stuck in my ways. Tried these items and they don't work for me is all I can say for sure.

 

[dcstrom]

I hear there's a pre-production 2017 Super Tenere around these parts... so for people who know about these things... would they have a pre-prod model if they weren't changing anything substantial? It could be just like a preview bike I guess. But if they changed something substantial, that would seem to indicate that the S10 has some time left yet!

 

[JRE]

I love my S10, it's the perfect road/traveling bike, but I will admit that when I see something a bit lighter used off-road and on the trails like an AfricaTwin or the new KTM 1090 I makes me want to go a bit smaller/lighter. The S10 does great off-road but it's a heavy beast to handle (exhausting physically).

...in the meantime I'm considering getting a WR250R as a little sister to my S10. Both with matching blue dresses )

You found the solution...multiple bikes. No one bike does everything extremely well, there's always some concession. In the case of the S10, the concession is weight.

 

[gustojunk]

You found the solution...multiple bikes. No one bike does everything extremely well, there's always some concession. In the case of the S10, the concession is weight.

You are right Joe, that might be by far the best solution. I think once I get a wr250 I will be the happiest when I reach to either bike for its job. ...But for most people the price, insurance, maintenance, space needed for multiple bikes is not practical, and Yamaha's competition is capitalizing on this. It will be interesting to see how/if/ the 'lighter adventure' market grows. My guess is that it will be a big success.

 

[gustojunk]

Lighter weight would not hurt, but can't get rid of shaft drive.

I agree, it's awesome not not have to do chain maintenance.

Don't contribute to ruining motorcycles by wanting a DCT. We already have ABS, and traction control for lazy and stupid, I don't need more of that crap. Sorry, old rider rant. Stuck in my ways. Tried these items and they don't work for me is all I can say for sure.

Valid viewpoint, but I can tell you I would have never bought my S10 if had no ABS. of course I rather have manually switchable ABS, but I rather take ABS always than no ABS.

Re: DCT I had the same 'assumption'. But DCT for hard technical rides offroad is the farthest from lazy and stupid it can get. The African Twin owner that swears by it it's an expert enduro rider, and I saw 2 out of 3 enduro champions that tried it wanting one. I will be trying in when I get a chance and then report back. In the meantime I remain open-minded.

 

[WJBertrand]

Lighter weight would not hurt, but can't get rid of shaft drive. Dual clutch has no appeal to me any more than a dumb new car or truck that people too lazy or stupid to drive buy. Please kill the dual clutch idea before motorcycles are ruined by lazy like cars/trucks. I guess for me not all bad, I used to buy a new truck every few years, now since all are automatic, I buy a new truck never and will die with my 1997 model even if I live 50 more years.Don't contribute to ruining motorcycles by wanting a DCT. We already have ABS, and traction control for lazy and stupid, I don't need more of that crap. Sorry, old rider rant. Stuck in my ways. Tried these items and they don't work for me is all I can say for sure.

Agreed. We need to bring back total loss oiling systems, manual spark advance and leather belt drive too. Oh and let's not forget about acetylene lighting while we're at it!

 

[Kiyoti]

... ::008:: ::008:: well stated point WJBertrand ::012:: ::012::

 

[limey]

Lighter weight would not hurt, but can't get rid of shaft drive. Dual clutch has no appeal to me any more than a dumb new car or truck that people too lazy or stupid to drive buy. Please kill the dual clutch idea before motorcycles are ruined by lazy like cars/trucks. I guess for me not all bad, I used to buy a new truck every few years, now since all are automatic, I buy a new truck never and will die with my 1997 model even if I live 50 more years.Don't contribute to ruining motorcycles by wanting a DCT. We already have ABS, and traction control for lazy and stupid, I don't need more of that crap. Sorry, old rider rant. Stuck in my ways. Tried these items and they don't work for me is all I can say for sure.

What is it 4 or 5 years of negativity?

 

[Tenerester]

I hear there's a pre-production 2017 Super Tenere around these parts... so for people who know about these things... would they have a pre-prod model if they weren't changing anything substantial? It could be just like a preview bike I guess. But if they changed something substantial, that would seem to indicate that the S10 has some time left yet!

2017 model is already out there (check out the US and EU Yamaha websites). Except for bold colours and graphics, the S10 remains unchanged yet another year.

Lets sincerely hope Yamaha is secretly building the next generation Super Tenere that will blow our minds off in 2018 !! ::022:: With the new Tenere 700 being the choice for off road adventure, the S10 will be the road touring oriented big brother. I am thinking redesigned faring/tank, front end of something similar to FZ10, increased horsepower (130 hp?), broader rear tire (170), dynamic damping, cornering ABS, switchable ABS, more ride modes, colour dashboard from R1M, LED headlamps, heated seats, lean angle lights and electric windshield tech from FJR, hill start assist, TPMS.. etc etc. Its good to dream. ::013::

 

[hawk281]

and it will cost as much as a beemer, with more things to break. ::021::