Tenere Tyre Consumption thread

markjenn

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Tire threads are pretty much like oil threads. Nothing wrong with that, but I wouldn't draw too many hard conclusions. And I think it is darn hard to do truly scientific tire testing, even if done by a major publication with significant resources. Just too many variables. I've seen too many tests where one publication rates Tire X dead last and the next rates it first. The difference could be just the type of pavement at the test facilities or the weather.

I wish we had something like Tire Rack for motorcycles where we could get thousands of motorcyclists to submit reviews and then rank from there. There is a lot of noise in this data also, but when you get a large-enough sample size, I think you can get some useful data and you notice some obvious trends. It's my primary resource in choosing car tires.

Tires do have a very different feel to different riders. This doesn't make one better than the other - just preference. Some riders like a tire that falls into a corner with little steering input, others what the more stable feel of a tire having to be pushed into a corner. For me, the thing I'm extremely sensitive to is whether a tire requires continuous bar pressure once into a corner. I'm really put off by tires that do but others may not be.

My opinion is that we have a lot of great tire choices for the S10. Despite what these tests say, I think the PR3's are a darn good street tire. For a 90-10 tire, I like the standard Tourances (not EXPs) for longevity. For a 50-50 tire, TCK80's are well proven, albeit expensive. But as long as Battlewings are available at such low prices (around $215 per pair shipped), I'll probably stick with them.

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markjenn said:
I wish we had something like Tire Rack for motorcycles where we could get thousands of motorcyclists to submit reviews and then rank from there. There is a lot of noise in this data also, but when you get a large-enough sample size, I think you can get some useful data and you notice some obvious trends.
I tend to read as many reviews and tests as possible and you do see patterns, for example I have yet to see a bad Roadsmart, TR91 or Tourance review.

Owners of all these tyres tend to be happy, but those who have used Tourance EXP's tend to complain about life, seen same trend with those trying TR91's - dunno if they are better or worse than EXP's but the balance between grip and wear is probably in play.

Roadsmarts and Pilot Roads should benefit from having dual compounds, but they start with less tread, they should also gain from larger footprint so you would expect great on-road performance.

I have seen good reports from owners of the Conti's as well, but most owners switching from dual purpose to road tyres seem very happy and rate them higher than whatever dual purpose tyre they had before - then again a new "identical" tyre normally feels great after you have been riding around on a squared of bald tyre for the last few hundred miles ;)
 

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Tire-rack is a great tool!

Bought a 97 Mercury Tracer wagon for one of the kids. It only had 22,000 miles on it and had been garage kept for 14 years. Like new!

But since the 90's, cars have gotten much quieter inside. Less road noise. Better insulation even.

So using a resource like Tire-rack, I could get a lot of data and zero in on the one aspect I was looking for. "Quiet tires"

My daughter thought I had done some kind of magic to her "new car". She hadn't even realized it was LOUD. (girls)

These forums are, in a sense, the tire-rack tool for me. I wouldn't have dared paid retail for a new bike at this cost-point without the tool.

Much easier to purchase with confidence nowadays.
 

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Just to throw my 2 cents in, I changed the shoes on my S10 this weekend. 15549 on the odometer. These were the original tires (BS Battle wing) and I probably could have put another 500-1000 miles on them, but I wasn't that brave. Actually I think my tire longevity was in part due to my own stupidity. I ride 62 miles round trip to work, all highway. Before I changed the tires I decided to find out what pressure I was running and set the new tires to the same. Well the front was 18psi, rear 24psi. They started at 34psi when I bought her last October. I set the new tires at 34psi. Handles better now..... The front was starting to cup and making a lot of noise, but no problems with the rear. BTW, this was the first time I have ever changed a bike tire. It wasn't to hard and only took about 3.5 hrs. Probably do it in 2 hrs next time.
 

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My Tenere eats tires. The stock Bridgestones lasted 4800 miles until the rear was BALD and the front was on the wear bars.

I know have 9200 miles on the odometer and the Anakee 2s I put on are showing the signs. The rear probably has another 1k in it and the front maybe a tad more.

I was really hoping to get the 10k some people claim. I guess I just ride like an ahole too much.

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avc8130 said:
I was really hoping to get the 10k some people claim. I guess I just ride like an ahole too much.
I lot of us get 5K out of a rear. I don't think I push that hard, but occasionally things will get pretty spirited. Roads, weather, loads, and the tire pressure you run are also contributing factors.

I may spring for Tourances (non-EXP) next time though. I'd really like to not have to replace tires after every long (3K) tour. But they're 40% more dough than the Bridgestones.

- Mark
 
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