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talreli

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I was 22 miles into the blinking ‘E’. Stopped for gas, was able to put 4.7 Gallons to top it off. At 44 MPG (my overall average) and a full tank capacity of 6.0 Gallons, that put the S10 at the 80 miles range on the reserve.

22 + (1.3*44) = 79.2 miles

Looking for other data points to confirm / rebuff this math.
 

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I recently found myself doing math in my helmet trying to figure out the same thing. My result kept coming up at 60+ miles in reserve, which I just thought was crazy, so I gave up on the math and switched to the physics of fast corners...much more satisfying!
 

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The problem with this math is that most of us don't get a full 6.0 gallon capacity, at least not without burping than tank. If you fill it up as Yamaha recommends to the bottom of the filler neck, you'll probably only get 5.7 gallons out of the tank before the bike runs out.

We had a long thread about tank capacity, when the reserve light comes on, etc. a while back. As data for this thread, I ran my bike until it quit and it showed about 50 miles on reserve. I'd start to get very nervous pushing beyond 40 or so.

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Might be that the fuel pump takes up some of the volume
anyway I think having an honest 40 mile range on reserve
is great ::008::
 

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I try to do my mental calculations based on 5.5 gallons just for safety sake. @43 mpg = 236. My low fuel starts flashing pretty early. Amazing how I get close to 200 miles on a tank, and it only takes 4.8 or 4.9 gallons. I think I will run it to show 35 miles or so into low fuel flash and see what happens.
 

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It would be nice to know what some of you guys' average mpg per tank is, before you state how far you can go on reserve. In Florida I consistently get between 38 and 42 mpg, but in Colorado, riding the same as I do here, I NEVER got under 53avg, and one tank, I got just over 60! I sure as hell could go a lot further on reserve in Colorado than I do here. It would be a more accurate measure of how far we could go on reserve if we knew EXACTLY how much gas was in the tank when the light started flashing. Assuming, of course the fuel gauges are all adjusted the same. Has anyone measured that yet?
 

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For you that are willing to push the limits of the 60-80 mile limit... don't forget wind, rain, poor road surfaces, hills, etc. I believe in the 40 (maybe 50) mile reserve.

Yesterday my tank started flashing at 202ish. Went another 8.5 miles before gasoline and it took 4.9 gallons. Still had 1.1 gllons in the tank. Why did it start flashing so soon? My guess is I was in step coastal hills and once it starts flashing it does not reset itself.
 

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I think ~1 gallon is the typical "reserve" with the light flashing.

I know if I pick up from the sidestand the light might come on, if it is premature it will go back off after ~3 miles. Usually to come back on within 20 more.

I get ~37 mpg. PERIOD.

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Some more advice:

Any "reserve testing" is best done with some extra gas on board in another container or 2.

You know, for when you find the REAL end.

ac
 

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avc8130 said:
Some more advice:

Any "reserve testing" is best done with some extra gas on board in another container or 2.

You know, for when you find the REAL end.

ac
ac, I am with you....

Despite the promising math, I never pushed it beyond the 30 miles mark.


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scott123007 said:
It would be nice to know what some of you guys' average mpg per tank is, before you state how far you can go on reserve. In Florida I consistently get between 38 and 42 mpg, but in Colorado, riding the same as I do here, I NEVER got under 53avg, and one tank, I got just over 60! I sure as hell could go a lot further on reserve in Colorado than I do here. It would be a more accurate measure of how far we could go on reserve if we knew EXACTLY how much gas was in the tank when the light started flashing. Assuming, of course the fuel gauges are all adjusted the same. Has anyone measured that yet?
Agreed. I live in CO and my S10 has been slowly getting better mileage over the summer as she approaches 5k miles. My last fill up was 51 and I pretty much flogged that tank at 85+ indicated on the commute like the previous tanks that were all mid 40's and creeping up but it took a leap. I would say it is a fluke but my Tundra has also been getting better mileage lately - it broke 18 the last tank. It has never done that before in 191,000 miles. I would swear we are getting gas here with less ethanol this summer. We used to get ethanol only during the winter but that changed a few years back. When it used to switch over you would see your mileage fade over the cours eof a month or so and then regain it when they went back. It sure as heck feel like that is what I am seeing.

Just my random 2 centavos
 

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If you are in the city with lots of gas stations around, you can go 60 miles on reserve. 20 miles outside of town? 10 miles is all you will get.
 

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MidlifeMotor said:
If you are in the city with lots of gas stations around, you can go 60 miles on reserve. 20 miles outside of town? 10 miles is all you will get.
Lol...
 

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tpak said:
Agreed. I live in CO and my S10 has been slowly getting better mileage over the summer as she approaches 5k miles. My last fill up was 51 and I pretty much flogged that tank at 85+ indicated on the commute like the previous tanks that were all mid 40's and creeping up but it took a leap. I would say it is a fluke but my Tundra has also been getting better mileage lately - it broke 18 the last tank. It has never done that before in 191,000 miles. I would swear we are getting gas here with less ethanol this summer. We used to get ethanol only during the winter but that changed a few years back. When it used to switch over you would see your mileage fade over the cours eof a month or so and then regain it when they went back. It sure as heck feel like that is what I am seeing.

Just my random 2 centavos
Very interesting Tpak. I thought it had more to do with the thinner air at altitude causing the fuel injectors to respond accordingly, and hell, for that matter, the thinner air causing less aerodynamic drag, (LOL), but now that I think of it, there were some ethanol free pumps, but I only remember them being 85 octane, which I never used. I did however, use 87 many times, when I was in Colorado, but like you're speculating, maybe with a lower dose of ethanol?
 

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scott123007 said:
Very interesting Tpak. I thought it had more to do with the thinner air at altitude causing the fuel injectors to respond accordingly, and hell, for that matter, the thinner air causing less aerodynamic drag, (LOL), but now that I think of it, there were some ethanol free pumps, but I only remember them being 85 octane, which I never used. I did however, use 87 many times, when I was in Colorado, but like you're speculating, maybe with a lower dose of ethanol?
Who knows. I only ever run 85 octane here - it is our lowest octane but perfectly fine unless you have a pinging issue. My Vstrom always got better mileage on it. For grins today I filled up with 89 - our highest octane just to see. Last year when I first got the S10 I tried it and it was no different between the two. Maybe after 5k miles it will tell a different tale. My last tank mileage was down but had a lot of off road goofing around so it doesn't count.
 

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I got 322 miles on a tank today!





...of course, I was dreaming restlessly at 3AM when this happened, so it might not be totally accurate. ;)
 
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