Shinko 705 run down

[low drag]

Lots of good info regarding the 705s....and looking forward to reading more. My question, if there are enough of us out there to give a good sampling....what is this tire like in the wet? I've only seen a small handful of references to wet weather ability and they have ranged from 'like driving on a mirror' to 'stayed planted'. I'm interested in more feedback of the 705 in wet weather.

I assume you mean wet pavement, not wet trails/mud.

I ride moderately and do slow down a bit in the wet. It has been a very wet spring here in the front range area of Colorado and I've had them out on twisty roads while raining, I've had no issues.

 

[Masterkick]

I'm curious, I ran a set of Shinko 705 on my Dr650 rears ago because most of my riding was on the highway. I learned real quick that they in no way performed like the Bridgestone (Trailwings I think) when off road or in deep gravel. However that was fine because at the time I really wasn't going off road much. I was mainly commuting to work on that bike.. My question is this. Is the Shinko 705 anymore capable offroad than the stock Metzler Tourance I have now? If I remember correctly the tread is fairly similar. I would like a tire that perfroms a little better off road but that still has long life and good highway manners...

 

[BaldKnob]

I'm curious, I ran a set of Shinko 705 on my Dr650 rears ago because most of my riding was on the highway. I learned real quick that they in no way performed like the Bridgestone (Trailwings I think) when off road or in deep gravel. However that was fine because at the time I really wasn't going off road much. I was mainly commuting to work on that bike.. My question is this. Is the Shinko 705 anymore capable offroad than the stock Metzler Tourance I have now? If I remember correctly the tread is fairly similar. I would like a tire that perfroms a little better off road but that still has long life and good highway manners...

You should take a look at the Mitas E07 rear. Many riders swear by their durability and handling. Pricey, but what are you going to do?

My S10 came with the Bridgestone BattleWings and I found the 705 rear to be just as capable on hardpack or loose gravel roads. Deep sand and (any) mud are the round-type tire's kryptonite. Marginally better life with the BW (7000mi) but cost nearly $40 more than the Shinko. Your call.

 

[low drag]

Just checked the tires before heading out of a late AM ride today.

Tires have 3,000 miles on them and the center of the rear has hit the dreaded 'yellow' zone on my thread depth gauge. I have to replace them in a few weeks so I have fresh tread for a trip I have in early August. I should have about 5,000 miles by then.

They still handle great on pavement, gravel road & trails. In fact I hit some sand last weekend and they did well, at least I didn't take a fall.....

Thus far the only surfaces I've had issues with is mud and riding the the outer 1/3 of the tire on those trails that cut across a slope. I've not hit snow on the trails with these tires yet.

 

[Anwar Namtut]

I'm having front and rears mounted today, so I'll try to keep adding to the findings, as well.

 

[Fltrooper]

Nice to see the, "705" doing well in the S-10. I had a set on my Strom and always loved how predictable they were. Once these ANkee 3's run out I'm gonna get some or M-40's!

 

[HeliMark]

I just replaced my K60's with the 705's. Not sure the K60's were going to make the whole trip I have next month, and most will be on pavement anyway. I also did not care for the K60 in the rain.

First impression (200 miles on them) is wow, they are squirrely. Well, the K60's were pretty squared off, so bit of a change, and going from a 50/50 to a 80/20 tire. Most noticeable difference is when I hit really rough pavement. A lot smoother ride. Softer rubber would be the reason, I would guess. And will see how they settle down after 5-600 miles.

I am going to run 36/40 tire pressure in them, and see how they do on this trip.

Mark

 

[RED CAT]

Anakee 3s. Rears are good, fronts are crap. Anakee 2s are better fronts. Rear Shinko 705 was finished at 10,000kms of briskness.

 

[low drag]

I just replaced my K60's with the 705's. Not sure the K60's were going to make the whole trip I have next month, and most will be on pavement anyway. I also did not care for the K60 in the rain.

First impression (200 miles on them) is wow, they are squirrely. Well, the K60's were pretty squared off, so bit of a change, and going from a 50/50 to a 80/20 tire. Most noticeable difference is when I hit really rough pavement. A lot smoother ride. Softer rubber would be the reason, I would guess. And will see how they settle down after 5-600 miles.

I am going to run 36/40 tire pressure in them, and see how they do on this trip.

Mark

Do you mean 36 psi in front and 40 in the rear? If so let me know how you do. I've found that 40 psi in the rear seems to be the ticket for me on pavement. If I'm going to be on trails/gravel for extended miles I'll drop to 38 psi in the rear. I'll leave the front alone at 36.

 

[HeliMark]

Do you mean 36 psi in front and 40 in the rear? If so let me know how you do. I've found that 40 psi in the rear seems to be the ticket for me on pavement. If I'm going to be on trails/gravel for extended miles I'll drop to 38 psi in the rear. I'll leave the front alone at 36.

Yes, 36 front, 40 rear. The guy that put the tires on put 32 psi both front and rear. I rode with that pressure for several days, but with the higher pressure, they seem to track a lot better. If I do any extended dirt, I am thinking of 2-4 psi drop in the tires will work.

Mark

 

[low drag]

Yes, 36 front, 40 rear. The guy that put the tires on put 32 psi both front and rear. I rode with that pressure for several days, but with the higher pressure, they seem to track a lot better. If I do any extended dirt, I am thinking of 2-4 psi drop in the tires will work.

Mark

I contacted Shinko, they don't recommend going any lower that 36 psi in the rear. I had it there for a bit, it was really soft in the curves. It did well on the trails though.

I've settled in on that 36/40 combo as well.

 

[Ramseybella]

Just put a little over 1500 miles on my 705's last few days in Colorado fully loaded.
I am impressed with these, kicked the K60's A$$ as far as handling on the pavement did better on forestry roads than the K60 did, no rolling Marble feel.
Yes it will last maybe 4 to 5 k but for under $100.00 I feel better with these for highway and light dirt.
It rained like Cat's and Dog's on 550 Wednesday they played well on the hair pin's.
My rear K60 felt like it was going to pull away three weeks ago when the same location was bone dry.
As I see it what good is high mileage if your laying on the pavement from sliding out.

 

[low drag]

Now time for that new tire.

It looks like I'm only getting 4K miles out of my 705 rear. But now that I know what psi to run in them I'll be sure do put them at 40 for my 2nd tire, I should get more out of it that way as I ran it too soft (38 at first and did 36 for at least 500 miles) for many many miles.

I could squeeze a few more miles of of them without issue but I'm heading off on a trip in a couple weeks, figure I better change them and let them run in a bit before I head out.

They still work better worn on the 4 wheel drive trails and gravel than the K60 did new. The profile is still rounded and they perform great in curves off the pavement.

 

[Ramseybella]

That is about right for life span on the Shinko, My ravens I used extensively on my Triumph Tiger 1050 got 5+k at $90.00 that was OK by me.
I agree on trail handling vs the K60, I feel that solid center strip and hard compound may have something to do with it.
Just felt always greasy I don't know?

 

[pub610]

I average about 15,000 miles a year -- the last two on the Tenere. I burned through Anakee IIIs in nothing flat and replaced them 705s. I've got about 8,000 mostly pavement miles on this set. Time to replace the front, but I expect I'll get another 3,000 on the rear. It's an 80-20 tire -- I'm a 90-10 rider -- and perfect for what I do. In western Ontario last month and in western Pennsylvania on the way home I got caught in a downpour. As always, I slowed down to about the speed limit and the tire did fine. I expect I'll run 705s until they stop selling them.

 

[low drag]

I average about 15,000 miles a year -- the last two on the Tenere. I burned through Anakee IIIs in nothing flat and replaced them 705s. I've got about 8,000 mostly pavement miles on this set. Time to replace the front, but I expect I'll get another 3,000 on the rear. It's an 80-20 tire -- I'm a 90-10 rider -- and perfect for what I do. In western Ontario last month and in western Pennsylvania on the way home I got caught in a downpour. As always, I slowed down to about the speed limit and the tire did fine. I expect I'll run 705s until they stop selling them.

If you don't mind what psi are you running?

 

[low drag]

Quick update... It looks like I could get plenty of extra miles out of the tire, 500 to 1,000.

I took my wheel off last night and plan to get it replaced today. If I didn't have a trip planned for early August I'd let the tire go for those additional miles.

BTW, this is my first time doing the rear wheel by myself. It was a snap thanks to the thread here:

http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=5275.0

I'll be reinstalling it tonight.

 

[Anwar Namtut]

I returned a couple of weeks ago from a CA trip of about 1,800 miles. When I left, there were probably 40 miles on the Shinko's. For the first 50-100 I felt a little unsure on them. Keep in mind this was my first "real" trip where I was fully loaded on this bike, so I think it was a combination of still breaking in the tires and me getting used the handling of the bike fully loaded. As the miles went on, I felt completely comfortable.

I was pleased with the performance. It was all highway miles in pretty good conditions. Some rain in and out of Yosemite. Relatively low speeds in the rain, but I felt totally confident on them.

It looks like there might be some slight squaring off starting on the rear, but to anyone who has ridden US 95 in NV and OR and I-80 in NV, this shouldn't be a surprise.

Will most likely buy again.

 

[Ramseybella]

Close to 3k on mine looks like I may get another 1500 out of it.
Went 1125k miles last week full load in Colorado rain construction zones no issues so far.

 

[low drag]

I just finished the COBDR with the new rear. We ran into some serious mud between Dolores and Telluride that forced us to try an easier the first time and get out onto pavement the 2nd time past Ground Hog Res.
The other area of trouble was the uphill sand section outside Buena Vista. I'm sure a better rider will do better than me over the sand with these tires but still not as good as a 50/50 knobby.

Bottom line: I ran into that 'last 10%' of riding conditions, high mountain clay mud (slurry in some spots) and deep sand on an uphill. teh 705 had some trouble there, but I'm sure I'd have trouble with knobbies. All the other surfaces the tires handled great including plenty of wet pavement, we had lots of that the first day or two. Climbing the steep grades and switchbacks up to Corkscrew etc on wet clay gravel, no problems. I got some slipping but that's to be expected. The rest of the route was things I've run into many times here in Colorado.

I'd get this tire again or at least a tire with similar tread pattern. Me like.

ETA: I went from about 9/32nds tread to 7/32nds tread on the trip with a total of just under 1,500 mi total mileage from Denver to Dolores and back to the Denver area at ride's end.