Shinko 705 run down

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A general question, but many of you inmates seem to mount your own tires in this thread (705's). Can these 705's be mounted just with a good set of tire irons ? And do you need to balance the tires/wheels after mounting ? My riding is 85% street - 15% light off-road. Thanks for any comments or feedback.
 

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They go on VERY easy with a Coates
220 manual machine so i have to
think they would be easy with just
irons.

In my experience they always need
balanced.
 

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We did the rear on the VStrom with tire irons. It wasn't easy and glad there were two of us. Definitely heat the tire first by throwing it on some black asphalt or something.
 

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I'm a big fan of the 705's. I got about 4500-5000 miles on each rear tire that I used, and I do mostly two up loaded riding. That isn't much less than the Bridgestone Battlewings that I started out with. I got approximately 9000 out of the front, but it was pretty badly cupped by the time I changed it. They are also relatively easy to change with just tire irons, which is a big selling point for me since I change my own tires. As soon as I burn off the rest of this Battlewing that's on the bike now, I'm going back to the Shinkos. I may even try out a set of 805's.

These tires are terrific. Don't let the cheap price give you the impression that they are cheap tires.
 

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scooter01 said:
A general question, but many of you inmates seem to mount your own tires in this thread (705's). Can these 705's be mounted just with a good set of tire irons ? And do you need to balance the tires/wheels after mounting ? My riding is 85% street - 15% light off-road. Thanks for any comments or feedback.
Scooter, I've changed a 704/705 with my field tools. Using (2) 10" steel tire irons and a 17" spoon, they pop off with ease and go on just as easily. Trick is to keep a knee in the tire while pulling it on/off the rim from the other side. Very soft sidewall but I've never had a failure. The Slime pump inflated both tires and my experience is they seat with less than 20psi. As for balancing... I don't, I look for a red/yellow dot to line up but most tires have none. YMMV

I've been thru some tires and it's hard to beat the Shinko value. That being said, the 705 will rarely get over 6K miles, for me, and looks really thin at 5K. I get 10K+ with the 704 front and they handle just as well as any other road tire out there. Not for the racer but will lean over just fine. My fav is their 804/805 tires. Similar life and price, same (if not better) road performance and expanded ability because they work well on soft surfaces. Win, win, win.
 

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Thanks to all that have replied. Good useful information. I am very experienced with Dirt Bike tire changing and can dismount/mount a tire in the field with no problems. Therefore sounds like this should be no problem in my workshop with good tire irons and a longer spoon. Appreciate all the info in this Forum.
 

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scooter01 said:
Thanks to all that have replied. Good useful information. I am very experienced with Dirt Bike tire changing and can dismount/mount a tire in the field with no problems. Therefore sounds like this should be no problem in my workshop with good tire irons and a longer spoon. Appreciate all the info in this Forum.
Changing these tires will be easier because there will be no tube to dick around with. Hardest part is getting the tire off the bead. Again, the 3 spoons, use two to push the tire down and the third (between the pushers) to pry it away. Once you see the bead release, move the pryer to each side of the pushers and yer dun. Rinse and repeat.
 

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Sorry to dig up post, but it seems best.

I just purchased my s10 a month ago with 705's on it. I come from a long dirt background. I have put about 2000 miles on the practically new 705 on the rear. I was blown away how much it took to light up the traction control on and off road. I have been able to cruise the dirt road to the ranch between 50-70 mph with more stability and traction then I could have imagined I have done 120 on the bike and it has been stable. And I do need to slow down in the rain, but I have been in 2 huge downpours at highway speeds and had zero issues. My front tire is pretty darn cupped with 12k miles and it will be replaced this weekend. I'll be sticking with the shinko because I have not seen a reason not to.
 

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Pdrhound said:
Sorry to dig up post, but it seems best.

I just purchased my s10 a month ago with 705's on it. I come from a long dirt background. I have put about 2000 miles on the practically new 705 on the rear. I was blown away how much it took to light up the traction control on and off road. I have been able to cruise the dirt road to the ranch between 50-70 mph with more stability and traction then I could have imagined I have done 120 on the bike and it has been stable. And I do need to slow down in the rain, but I have been in 2 huge downpours at highway speeds and had zero issues. My front tire is pretty darn cupped with 12k miles and it will be replaced this weekend. I'll be sticking with the shinko because I have not seen a reason not to.
Good Rubber great price need to keep them peaked on the tire pressure I run 40 to 41 lbs, I have a 21" in the front (MOD) 40lbs, I get good miles until I start loading up for touring and camping. My front kept cupping I been keeping it peaked and it went away, and being easy on the front pads keeps this issue down as well.
My best was 7k on the rear but I didn't go out of town or camping that much this year.
 

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I've got about 4k on the 705 rear and 1k one the front. I'm very happy with the performance so far. The rear probably wont make it much past 6k but at the price it's ok. Very impressed with the road performance. Dry or wet (or even real wet) they've worked great for me. And they are much better on the dirt/gravel roads I sometimes travel than the OEM BW's. Yup, I'd get'em again.
 

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I put mine on by hand, mini tire irons and a bead buddy, it went on easy enough and balanced with 2 oz. Great tire on street and dirt maybe 4000 miles looks like I'll get another 4000, I paired it with the 805 front and I would stick with that combo unless I was going to do a cross country run.
 

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gunnar#1 said:
I put mine on by hand, mini tire irons and a bead buddy, it went on easy enough and balanced with 2 oz. Great tire on street and dirt maybe 4000 miles looks like I'll get another 4000, I paired it with the 805 front and I would stick with that combo unless I was going to do a cross country run.

Thanks and welcome aboard with your first post.
 

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My $0.02: I have 6,500 miles on a set I put on back in June before a ride from NC to CO and back. I run 36 psi in the front and 42 in the rear. Probably all but 100 miles or so has been pavement. Front currently shows 9/32 tread depth; rear shows 3/32, it's about to be replaced.

General impressions: These tires replaced a set of Continental TrailAttack 2's, from which I got about 11k miles. The Contis (for me) were very confidence-inspiring on the road. I'm not much of an off-road rider, so whatever impressions I would have there (either on the Contis or the Shinkos) would need to be taken with more than a pinch of salt. The Shinkos felt VERY different from the start, mainly due to the fact that they are not a self-righting tire. They want to fall into the corner, and won't come back up until/unless you provide the control inputs to do so. It's been noted before, and I agree it's not bad - just something to get used to.

Noise: Meh... yeah, there's a bit more hum at speed, but I wear ear plugs, and even with the best wind protection riding a bike like the S-10 is just going to be a little noisy, so it wasn't a big deal in my mind.

Highway: Absolutely fine. They seemed to track true, and stuck in all conditions. Never gave me any reason to question them, even in fairly hard rain. All my riding is solo - never 2 up, but I have a full set of Givi Trekker Outback cases (sides & top), which were all fairly well loaded for the 4500 mile trip to CO and back in July.

Twisties: Living in NC (and now having a son at Appalachian State in Boone) I spend a fair amount of time on some of the best riding roads in the country. I wouldn't say I'm super-aggressive, but I get around pretty well. The Shinkos have been at least as confidence-inspiring in the dry as the Contis. I don't purposely ride curvy mountain roads when it's wet, but if/when it does get wet I take it super-easy. It's just not worth the risk for me, but that's just because I'm at the age where I'm feeling my mortality (and my mortgage, and college, etc.) - not because I ever had any "pucker-moments". The tires have never scared me.

Mounting: I did my own - both front and rear. It was my first foray EVER into replacing tires on my own, so I had no more or less than the typical difficulties/frustrations in getting them on. It was good to have an extra set of hands to keep the opposite bead in the channel, since I don't have a bead-buddy, but i managed to do the job without permanent injury or damage to either the tires or the rims.

Balancing: I tried out CounterAct Balancing Beads for the first time on these tires, also. Mfg recommends 1.5 oz in front and 2 oz in rear. I found that to be inadequate, as I got a rhythmic vibration at speed. I added an extra oz to both the front and the rear, and that made the ride smooth as glass. No issues since. Yes - I will use the beads again, despite the fact that my riding buddy calls them "voodoo magic".

Repeat buy? ... Sure. I'm going to get either a Shinko or Full-Bore rear here soon. I'm not yet down to the wear bars on the rear, but I doubt I'll get another 500 miles on them before I go ahead and replace them, just for peace of mind. I've been happy with the performance, so there's no reason to change, in my mind - I'm used to the handling, and they've always felt planted. They saved me a little money, but I wouldn't use them again if I didn't feel they were safe. Saving $50 - $100 over 12,000 or so miles wouldn't be worth wondering if I could trust the only thing connecting me to the road.

There you have it. Thanks to everyone who provided insights/opinions before me. Hope this helps the next guy like you guys helped me. :)

Andrew
 

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Andrew, very nice write up. All I'd add is that the tires are excellent in the wet particularly on blacktop. They're not great on wet cement, but what is, really...
 

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yz454 said:
Fullbores m40s are the same thread accept it,s deeper . That,s all I run any more .
I ordered a rear Shinko 705 and they sent a Fullbores m40s.
Honestly i like it, seems to get the same mileage and decent in the rain slightly deeper wider tread, i don't push my luck in heavy rains.
42psi on the rear.
I don't know what the Fullbore front wold be like, my front is 21" Shinko i will stay with that for now.
 

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Put about 75 miles on it yesterday to break the new off of them. A little more vibration when rolling to a stop than the battlewings, also more road noise, but this may reduce a bit as they wear in.

like the way they look on the bike.
 
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