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Hello all. New to the forum and convinced that I'm going to purchase before April of this year. As I do my online research, I see on Cycle Trader that OH and KY seem to post prices in the 12k range where everyone else is 13.5k and up.

Anybody have experience purchasing from these dealers? They get ya in door with price and then try to charge huge prep fees?

I'm out West(UT) but def not opposed to traveling to pick up and ride home.

Thanks in advance, sorry if noob question.

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WWV said:
Hello all. New to the forum and convinced that I'm going to purchase before April of this year. As I do my online research, I see on Cycle Trader that OH and KY seem to post prices in the 12k range where everyone else is 13.5k and up.

Anybody have experience purchasing from these dealers? They get ya in door with price and then try to charge huge prep fees?

I'm out West(UT) but def not opposed to traveling to pick up and ride home.

Thanks in advance, sorry if noob question.

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Hey WWV, welcome to the forum.

I'd say to go ahead and post on here some of the links to CycleTrader so we can see who you're talking about. Or, just post the dealers that are listed. Somebody has probably dealt with them at some point and can offer some thoughts.
 

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Hey WWV, The Ohio dealer you are probably talking about is Honda East/Yamaha. They have been there quite a few years and do lots of business online. They try to move volume with low prices. I have posted about a few dealers here in WA that are sitting on some stock and might do some dealing to move some, specially if they sit on them for too long of time paying for floorplan.
 

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WWV said:
Hello all. New to the forum and convinced that I'm going to purchase before April of this year. As I do my online research, I see on Cycle Trader that OH and KY seem to post prices in the 12k range where everyone else is 13.5k and up.

Anybody have experience purchasing from these dealers? They get ya in door with price and then try to charge huge prep fees?

I'm out West(UT) but def not opposed to traveling to pick up and ride home.

Thanks in advance, sorry if noob question.

WWV
Welcome aboard! Yes, I have found pricing in some of the mid-west states to better Han what we can usually find in the mountain states before as well and have done fly-n-rides on a couple bikes in the past. For the SuperT, my local dealer came close enough that i decided to just buy local.

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See if this link works. You'll notice half way down page under "standard listings" that you will find for 11.9k from Lexington KY dealer, then in the 12's from OH.

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WWV said:
See if this link works. You'll notice half way down page under "standard listings" that you will find for 11.9k from Lexington KY dealer, then in the 12's from OH.

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I would call the dealer in Lexington. The fact they list it as a 2011 tells me they may not know what they're talking about and just trying to get you in the door OR they are leftover PDP models.

I've heard nothing but positive things about Honda East in Toledo (Maumee).

You may be able to use some of those prices as negotiation tools for dealers near you.
 

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Dang that is about $800 less than I paid here in Florida. Those are great prices. MSRP is $14.5.

Now i'm questioning what I paid! Although I feel i got great value and I LOVE riding this motorcycle!
 

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See if this link works. You'll notice half way down page under "standard listings" that you will find for 11.9k from Lexington KY dealer, then in the 12's from OH.

Click Here
The $11,990 price seems a bit out of place. It could be a demo with a bunch of miles on it, hence the lower price. It's tough to get the full story until you make a few phone calls.

Their website shows the same price as CycleTrader, so I doubt that is the price for a specific bike.

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Grab the phone and get the story is my advice.
 

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I just sent an email asking for an out the door price. We'll see what they have to say. That is a really good price.
In Cycle trader it says it is new. But they also mis spelled Tenere and called it a sport bike.
 

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I just sent an email asking for an out the door price. We'll see what they have to say. That is a really good price.
In Cycle trader it says it is new. But they also mis spelled Tenere and called it a sport bike.
Ok, got a reply to my email.

without the tax its going to be 11990+199 doc fee and 495 freight and set up and shipping would be additional if you wanted that done so 12684 otd

That's not a bad price, but if you take the doc fee off, it is about what the dealer in Texas was selling them for before the price increase.
 

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wow, wonder how I tell the wife I want to buy the bike 3 mos ahead of schedule. >:D

Thanks for the feed back guys.

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Hello,

I am just wrapping up a purchase in the Detroit area for $13,800 including: freight, assembly, prep, doc fee, 6% tax, title and plates. Heading to Alaska in June.
 

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Hello,

I am just wrapping up a purchase in the Detroit area for $13,800 including: freight, assembly, prep, doc fee, 6% tax, title and plates. Heading to Alaska in June.
Beverly Hills?! Watch out man, they'll sneak up on you in Alaska...no banjo music to warn ya either!
 

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What a nice country USA
Everything is cheap
You are so lucky guys to live in USA

Here in Turkey i paid for my ST 22.000 USD
petrol for liter is 2 USD
I pay 40 USD for 20 liters
 

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I paid 12 200 no prep no freight no doc fee from dealer in south carolina had to pay taxes when I got back to knoxville tennessee the dealer said he's not going to stock anymore so is not a good source for this price but it's a good base line to start at
hope this helps ps just got back from 2300 mile ride in 2 and a half days bike ran fantastic
 

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Interesting comments from all and thank you.

I'm still learning about how the whole new bike purchase works. And by that I mean, I get auto purchase programs and dealer markup, hold backs, invoice vs actual invoice and actual final costs to dealer, etc, etc. Even with Internet searching on the subject, there still seems to be some smoke and mirrors to what actual costs to bike dealers are.

Also, I've bought multiple bikes in my life(5) but have always been through private parties and used. When I walk into bike dealer and talk new, it just "feels" like I'm still working in the Wild West a bit ;D.

Maybe an anonymous / unnamed dealer can shed some light on the subject???? All about fair dealing and profit for the seller. I'd just like to know we're negotiating from a common point.

I've done the "request a quote" through website to 3 dif dealers offering 12,200 and haven't even got response.

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WWV said:
All about fair dealing and profit for the seller.
Agree. I support my local dealer and don't try to chisel the guy down to the last penny. How many of us in our businesses would like that? I got a good deal from my guy but I don't know if I got the best price around and I don't care. It was a fair price and we both got what we wanted out of the deal.

If your dealer can offer you good service after the sale, fair prices and is really interested in your business, buy from him. Lots of dealers are going down these days with people getting rock bottom internet prices from some out of state outfit and then going to their local dealer expecting to be welcomed with open arms.

You probably won't have to pay MSRP and I think dealers may make a bit over $1000 at MSRP but I don't know. I say use your common sense, cheapest price is not always the best deal.
 

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WWV said:
Interesting comments from all and thank you.

I'm still learning about how the whole new bike purchase works. And by that I mean, I get auto purchase programs and dealer markup, hold backs, invoice vs actual invoice and actual final costs to dealer, etc, etc. Even with Internet searching on the subject, there still seems to be some smoke and mirrors to what actual costs to bike dealers are.

Also, I've bought multiple bikes in my life(5) but have always been through private parties and used. When I walk into bike dealer and talk new, it just "feels" like I'm still working in the Wild West a bit ;D.

Maybe an anonymous / unnamed dealer can shed some light on the subject???? All about fair dealing and profit for the seller. I'd just like to know we're negotiating from a common point.

I've done the "request a quote" through website to 3 dif dealers offering 12,200 and haven't even got response.

WWV
At that offer I would not respond either.. There are tire kickers and people who low ball. Then there are people who are smart buyers.
I know where there is a new bike, out the door less sales tax for 12,684. That's a good price.
You know what the MSRP is and you shoud know what the dealers were selling them for during the PDP( 12,400).
So make an offer that you can afford and that won't break the dealers back.

Try to buy local if you can, you may need a dealers help sometime. jmho
 

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WWV said:
All about fair dealing and profit for the seller. I'd just like to know we're negotiating from a common point.
Bikes are sold today about like cars were thirty years ago before there were standardized destination charges, required window stickers showing MSRPs, internet sites that can quote dealer cost down to the penny, and buyer's services like Costco. This means the motorcucle buyer typically isn't as well-informed, but if you're a savvy negotiator, you can still cut good deals, you may just have to work a little harder at it.

My experience is that motorcycle dealers almost never do any serious negotiation on price over email or phone. There is almost nothing to be gained because if they offer a good price, it is likely the buyer will simply use this as leverage somewhere else. Again, most bikes are sold like cars used to be sold - in one-on-one negotiations in the dealer's place of business. This is typically the only time you're likely to get their best price.

I try not to wade into what is "fair" or not - all I ask is that the dealer be honest and upfront in the negotiation. It is all about supply and demand and if dealer has a hot bike that is in high demand, I don't begrudge them making extra profit, because you know they are going to take it in the shorts for a slow-selling model. This means the price varies from time to time and market to market and the best deal you can do is what you personally can negotiate, just like with cars. Lord knows, no one is making a killing these days selling motorcycles; most are just hanging on by their fingernails. If you are working with a dealer you like and their price seems reasonable and more/less competitive, I suggest just buying the bike, rather than spending too much time trying to extract the last dollar from the deal or match a price floating around on the internet.

- Mark
 

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Bikes are sold today about like cars were thirty years ago before there were standardized destination charges, required window stickers showing MSRPs, internet sites that can quote dealer cost down to the penny, and buyer's services like Costco. This means the motorcucle buyer typically isn't as well-informed, but if you're a savvy negotiator, you can still cut good deals, you may just have to work a little harder at it.

My experience is that motorcycle dealers almost never do any serious negotiation on price over email or phone. There is almost nothing to be gained because if they offer a good price, it is likely the buyer will simply use this as leverage somewhere else. Again, most bikes are sold like cars used to be sold - in one-on-one negotiations in the dealer's place of business. This is typically the only time you're likely to get their best price.

I try not to wade into what is "fair" or not - all I ask is that the dealer be honest and upfront in the negotiation. It is all about supply and demand and if dealer has a hot bike that is in high demand, I don't begrudge them making extra profit, because you know they are going to take it in the shorts for a slow-selling model. This means the price varies from time to time and market to market and the best deal you can do is what you personally can negotiate, just like with cars. Lord knows, no one is making a killing these days selling motorcycles; most are just hanging on by their fingernails. If you are working with a dealer you like and their price seems reasonable and more/less competitive, I suggest just buying the bike, rather than spending too much time trying to extract the last dollar from the deal or match a price floating around on the internet.

- Mark
Yup, this is basically what I did. $14,500MSRP and I offered $13,800 and a $5,000 trade in that was a wash but, I saved over $600 in sales tax. Was it a great deal? Nope not really, but do I think that it was fair for the both of us? Yes. Others will probably disagree, but the deal is done and I'm LOVING the hell out of the Tenere and can't wait to meet up with others and do some riding! ::021::
 
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