New entrant to the Tenere World from Vancouver, Canada

[Tenerester]

Welcome. Come on down south of the border and ride with some of the Pacific Northwest Super Tenere Owners Group. There is a Facebook page to get information. A ride this weekend in Cle Elum.

I did an adventure training course a few weeks ago and learned that feathering the brakes on the ST is difficult on slow speed maneuvers Seems to be all or none. I had read that as well somewhere.

Thanks Sam. Will check it out. Love the roads in PNW. Brakes have improved a lot after 6500kms of riding. I have not ventured off road yet. Need to get some protection accessories before that.

Cheers

Harry

 

[Tenerester]

A big ::004:: from here in the UK. My wife has cousins near you, in Salmon Arm - we really must get over there for a visit.

What a disaster the R1200RT has been. To think I nearly bought one in January. Instead my hard earned went into a 2012 BMW K1600GTSE. The experience with the K16 has been dire too - whatever the warranty might say, nothing can prepare you for the grief that so many failures/problems can cause. Sadly no buy-back with my Lemon - if only we had the law behind us here in the UK, like some States in the USA. So I am now left with a bike I cannot trust, even with it's new gearbox & front suspension - what will fail next. To think this bike cost over 19k sterling new fully optioned, yet was released on a unsuspecting public without being shaken down properly. It really is a disgrace. Those smug sales guys melt away every time I turn up at the Dealer.

Still, the Super Ten seems pretty bullet proof by all accounts. Let's enjoy the ride...... ::001:: ............. KEN

Thanks Ken. We have ridden through Salmon Arm a couple of times. Lovely and scenic. You should visit BC. Its beautiful out here. You might probably just decide to stay here for good

Oh the Baverians!!! They seem to have got themselvesinto one hell of a soup. Before the RT fiasco, my main gripe was how the dealerships were ripping people off on maintenance. I have run over 6500 KMs on my Tenere so far and and maintenance cost has been a mere $60 (engine oil + shaft oil + filter). I spent over 10 times that amount on my Beamers within the first 1000 KMs of tiding. Enough said!!

Cheers

Harry

 

[chr1s]

Thanks Ken. We have ridden through Salmon Arm a couple of times. Lovely and scenic. You should visit BC. Its beautiful out here. You might probably just decide to stay here for good

Oh the Baverians!!! They seem to have got themselvesinto one hell of a soup. Before the RT fiasco, my main gripe was how the dealerships were ripping people off on maintenance. I have run over 6500 KMs on my Tenere so far and and maintenance cost has been a mere $60 (engine oil + shaft oil + filter). I spent over 10 times that amount on my Beamers within the first 1000 KMs of tiding. Enough said!!

Cheers

Harry

Ok, I'm curious about this BMW maintenance cost 'issue' that a lot of folk complain about. I read about it in various forums but don't get it! BMW are one of the few manufacturers that allow you to DIY the services without threatening the warranty (yes, I know in the USA that doesn't really matter anyway with the Act you have). Ducati, Aprilia and KTM all insist that dealers perform the services and is one reason why I probably won't ever buy their bikes new. Not having a pop at you Harry I'm just saying.
Btw, sorry Tenerester, don't mean to hijack your welcome post....a big hello from over on the Island anyway ;D

 

[HHH]

Welcome aboard!!
I used to own a Ford F-150 Harley Davidson to which I spent so much money farckling, one of the MOD's was the installation of dimpled brake rotors, me as well as all of the other HD owners that replaced either for dimpled or cross drilled rotors, noticed a whisper, almost a fast paced ticking coming from the brakes, we immediately realized it was from the new rotors.
I have not seen the type of rotors your previous motorcycle was equipped with, nor the brake pads compound, so if it was drilled like the Super Ténéré but slightly different configuration, perhaps didn't make the noise I hear on mine, which is EXACTLY the same as my F-150 dimpled rotors used to make.
With all of that being said, I am 99.9% positive the noise you hear are from the drilled rotors of our Super Ténérés.

 

[Tenerester]

Ok, I'm curious about this BMW maintenance cost 'issue' that a lot of folk complain about. I read about it in various forums but don't get it! BMW are one of the few manufacturers that allow you to DIY the services without threatening the warranty (yes, I know in the USA that doesn't really matter anyway with the Act you have). Ducati, Aprilia and KTM all insist that dealers perform the services and is one reason why I probably won't ever buy their bikes new. Not having a pop at you Harry I'm just saying.
Btw, sorry Tenerester, don't mean to hijack your welcome post....a big hello from over on the Island anyway ;D

No worries. Happy to respond. (BTW TENERESTER=Harry)
The BMW costs start at the showroom before you even ride it out. For example I had a GS before the RT. The price tag you see is way above other bikes (which you are willing to pay because it's a "BMW") but it basically comes with nothing...not even a pair of plastic hand guards. The stock seats and windshields suck. So BMW actually expects you to spend more money over and top of the premium you have already paid. OEM accessories are not of great quality but they are ridiculously priced.Same story with the RT. The Canadian bikes came fully loaded and I had to pay over $5000 for some options I won't ever use. It didn't come with a top box which I desperately needed. It cost me another $1500. I bought two premium bikes from them within a span of two years and the only incentive I got from them was a rubber key chain with their name on it.
Then comes the servicing.... Both running-in service and 10K services cost me almost $500 each. It was barely an half hour job. The 20K service for the GS was $750. I do a fair bit of riding in a year and these add up. I know they say you can DIY etc etc.... and keep receipts for warranty. Does it actually work? My dealer never told me that and he insisted that I did it at their workshop. I just could not trust my dealership anyway. When I brought my 2014 RT home the first day, it had a major oil leak. It was literally dripping oil. (paid $750 for PDI.) When I called the dealership immediately, their first response was "Are you sure? Did anything happen on the way? organizing a pick up now can be a problem. Do you think you can slowly ride it to our workshop?" That's the response I got after spending $27,000 just hours before that. Enough said!!!
The Super Tenere on the other hand is rideable in stock form on the street and I proved it in my 5200km trip. I just added panniers and nothing else. It was way more comfortable than both the RT and the GS in stock form. The Yamaha dealership encouraged me to do my own service and provided some technical advise too.
I may no longer be showing of a "premium" branded motorcycle in the parking lot, but the peace of mind I have now is priceless.

 

[chr1s]

No worries. Happy to respond. (BTW TENERESTER=Harry)
The BMW costs start at the showroom before you even ride it out. For example I had a GS before the RT. The price tag you see is way above other bikes (which you are willing to pay because it's a "BMW") but it basically comes with nothing...not even a pair of plastic hand guards. The stock seats and windshields suck. So BMW actually expects you to spend more money over and top of the premium you have already paid. OEM accessories are not of great quality but they are ridiculously priced.Same story with the RT. The Canadian bikes came fully loaded and I had to pay over $5000 for some options I won't ever use. It didn't come with a top box which I desperately needed. It cost me another $1500. I bought two premium bikes from them within a span of two years and the only incentive I got from them was a rubber key chain with their name on it.
Then comes the servicing.... Both running-in service and 10K services cost me almost $500 each. It was barely an half hour job. The 20K service for the GS was $750. I do a fair bit of riding in a year and these add up. I know they say you can DIY etc etc.... and keep receipts for warranty. Does it actually work? My dealer never told me that and he insisted that I did it at their workshop. I just could not trust my dealership anyway. When I brought my 2014 RT home the first day, it had a major oil leak. It was literally dripping oil. (paid $750 for PDI.) When I called the dealership immediately, their first response was "Are you sure? Did anything happen on the way? organizing a pick up now can be a problem. Do you think you can slowly ride it to our workshop?" That's the response I got after spending $27,000 just hours before that. Enough said!!!
The Super Tenere on the other hand is rideable in stock form on the street and I proved it in my 5200km trip. I just added panniers and nothing else. It was way more comfortable than both the RT and the GS in stock form. The Yamaha dealership encouraged me to do my own service and provided some technical advise too.
I may no longer be showing of a "premium" branded motorcycle in the parking lot, but the peace of mind I have now is priceless.

I hear you Harry but I feel a lot of this, which is often the case, is down to a crappy dealer. Speaking about the maintenance, I had great service from the BMW dealer on the island. From both sales and service. In fact, in the 22 years I've been riding and going to dealers for browsing and chewing the fat etc, it's been the best experience I've had to date. It tells you in the owners manual, or at least mine did for the S1000R, that you can perform your own maintenance and to keep records. My dealer also quite happily verified that. They even discouraged me from buying a GS-911 to reset the service light as I could just pop in and they'd do it...for a few beers or course
With a supportive dealer a lot is possible...even with the Marques that don't allow DIY I bet there's dealers that turn a blind eye when they know and trust the skills of a certain customer and process, and perhaps fight for, their warranty claims if required.

I can understand you though, and if I went through what you did, I'd be pissed as well. I hope you enjoy your new ride.