New ECU Flash Option: DIY FLASHING

[Purificator81]

have you guys heard about unrestricting the first three gears using only the dashboard buttons??? my mechanic told me that he did it on many teneres and it worked....any thoughts???

 

[Rasher]

have you guys heard about unrestricting the first three gears using only the dashboard buttons??? my mechanic told me that he did it on many teneres and it worked....any thoughts???

Sounds like BS to me.

 

[JRE]

I've never heard of that either...get his procedure so we can try

 

[~TABASCO~]

have you guys heard about unrestricting the first three gears using only the dashboard buttons??? my mechanic told me that he did it on many teneres and it worked....any thoughts???

Please send me his name and dealer... I gotta call and find out what he is talking about...

 

[Purificator81]

Well, I found it on super-tenere.org which us the French Forum for the S10 on this link
http://www.super-tenere.org/t5066-debridage

This is the google translation to thr manoeuvre so bear with the quality please

reset right
select left

Shunt between green and black in the decision under the seat. Simply remove the plugs on these 2 son and spend a wire forcing to make contact between the 2 son). We must maintain the shunt during réglaghes and remove.

Switch the circuit breaker to off

press both buttons at the same time and maintain

switch on the ignition.
After 5 seconds you see appear "DIAG" on the right screen.

Release the buttons and press again on the 2 simultaneously (then displays faults codes)

Scroll down the codes to 63

Press reset (not select), (fault code 70) and in the fraction of a second, the select (not reset) without releasing reset (not select), hold the two buttons down for 20 seconds until engine fault indicator (orange LED with motor symbol) lights fixed in later press reset (not select) to make it blink?

Icon 100hp fixed
flashing icon - fp

then back to "On" at the circuit breaker before cutting contact (Yamaha recommendation) to record manipulation.
This works well and you can also go back.

 

[Purificator81]

Please send me his name and dealer... I gotta call and find out what he is talking about...

Well he is in morocco but was trained in france so he is not in the us. I sent esrlier the link to the french forum of s10 owner who do it as well

 

[avc8130]

Well, I found it on super-tenere.org which us the French Forum for the S10 on this link
http://www.super-tenere.org/t5066-debridage

This is the google translation to thr manoeuvre so bear with the quality please

reset right
select left

Shunt between green and black in the decision under the seat. Simply remove the plugs on these 2 son and spend a wire forcing to make contact between the 2 son). We must maintain the shunt during réglaghes and remove.

Switch the circuit breaker to off

press both buttons at the same time and maintain

switch on the ignition.
After 5 seconds you see appear "DIAG" on the right screen.

Release the buttons and press again on the 2 simultaneously (then displays faults codes)

Scroll down the codes to 63

Press reset (not select), (fault code 70) and in the fraction of a second, the select (not reset) without releasing reset (not select), hold the two buttons down for 20 seconds until engine fault indicator (orange LED with motor symbol) lights fixed in later press reset (not select) to make it blink?

Icon 100hp fixed
flashing icon - fp

then back to "On" at the circuit breaker before cutting contact (Yamaha recommendation) to record manipulation.
This works well and you can also go back.

I'm 99% sure that "trick" is to eliminate France's 100HP limiter.

ac

 

[Purificator81]

ac I think you are right. what they are describing are two processes on shunt about the clutch and another somewhere else and each one has its own effect: one makes the S10 to its full power and the other to make the gears unrestricted...now they are using some urban words to describe it and I am missing how they do it...

 

[Rasher]

I'm 99% sure that "trick" is to eliminate France's 100HP limiter.

Crazy, my S10 only showed about 85BHP on the dyno, be interesting to dyno a French bike before and after this mod as I would say "restricting" an S10 to 100BHP would involve adding power

 

[CanteenBoy]

Greetings all,

Just installed the FTecu datalink and flashed in the unrestricted file for my bike....It's a great improvement no doubt, but I have noticed that the hand-numbing buzzy vibrations have gotten much more noticeable. Anyone else noticed this? It's kind of frustrating since it seems to be common knowledge on the interwebs that uncorking this engine typically smooths it out.
2012 model. My ECU is a 70 and I have an Akra slip on...otherwise, it's stock.

Any ideas or guidance? Thanks!

 

[CanteenBoy]

Hey guys...so according to FT, the option to import PCV files is not available for our bikes yet. I've heard that this was/should be doable. Anyone have any experiences with this?

 

[avc8130]

Hey guys...so according to FT, the option to import PCV files is not available for our bikes yet. I've heard that this was/should be doable. Anyone have any experiences with this?

Get the -30 file and open it. Use the PC Fuel Import function in the -30 file. Then copy/paste the fuel tables from that file to the -70 to flash.

ac

 

[CanteenBoy]

Get the -30 file and open it. Use the PC Fuel Import function in the -30 file. Then copy/paste the fuel tables from that file to the -70 to flash.

ac

I just finished doing this and had a test ride...the PCV file I used was the free download from their website for a stock bike with an Akra slip on. I loaded this fueling into the FT 'unrestricted' file and so far seems to be a very agreeable combo. Need to get more miles to tell for sure, but I like it so far.

 

[Pilotuh1b]

G'day AC,

Just wondering if your research has come up with a good flash for the 23P-8591A-00 ECU? I'm in Aus but I assume it's the EU ECU.

I've had a tinker with FT and it looks like the 1-3 restrictions are all generated in the IGN advance and ETV Basemaps. There's no actual fueling changes which surprised me.

Cheers,
Pilotuh1b

 

[avc8130]

G'day AC,

Just wondering if your research has come up with a good flash for the 23P-8591A-00 ECU? I'm in Aus but I assume it's the EU ECU.

I've had a tinker with FT and it looks like the 1-3 restrictions are all generated in the IGN advance and ETV Basemaps. There's no actual fueling changes which surprised me.

Cheers,
Pilotuh1b

Yup, that's a standard EU configuration.

I've been trying to say that all along...fueling does NOT change in the modes. Fueling is ALWAYS based on TPS and MAP based maps, with a blending map. Don't worry about fueling. On a stock header bike, you won't find enough to be bothered with there.

I honestly wouldn't even mess with timing to start.

Get to work on your throttle maps. THAT is where the real bread and butter butter is.

ac

 

[Rodge]

I want to avoid double posting but it belongs here...
I'm now working on my 3rd iteration of my own custom tune, surprisingly enough, it's somewhat conservative in the fist quarter (0% - 25%) of throttle movement, 1-1 in the 25%-75% and WOT by 88%, no need to break my wrist... If I wank the throttle in 1st gear well, I better hang on... Same throttle map applied to each gear.
For me it's all about throttle control, steady power application when leaning towards the apex and smooth acceleration out of the apex, engine braking I like and want so I'm removing a little bit of it in the lower and upper RPM.
1st flash was mode "S" CJM equivalent throttle map with little engine braking from the unrestricted file... interesting (fun at first) but not what I'm looking for... still jerky and hard on the brakes... To my standard, YMMV...
As far as the differences between 12-13 & 14, well the throttle maps are a bit more aggressive on the 14 combined with the minor engine mods may results in the unrestricted quotes I have been reading here and there on the forum.
***Note to Rasher, you're comments on what you were (are) looking for are exactly what I'm aiming for... did a tour of the Alps on a Ducati ST4s, coming in & out of the hairpin on the way up in 2nd gear was a bliss... Getting close...
::003::

 

[jvl]

I have been asking FT to add the bias map to my -00 file for months and it is something that just will not happen, so I have to start trying something else. One thing that baffles me right now is that it seems that my low rev problem does not exist with TCS off, so I am wondering what changes? I could not find anything in the ECU file about TCS. The dealer said that TCS is connected to ECU and affects the maps / injection. I do not know what that means, but thats what they said when I asked about why TCS off could be a factor.

somewhat conservative in the fist quarter (0% - 25%) of throttle movement, 1-1 in the 25%-75% and WOT by 88%, no need to break my wrist... If I wank the throttle in 1st gear well, I better hang on... Same throttle map applied to each gear.

Sounds great! I was thinking about trying to implement something similar.

 

[Pilotuh1b]

Pretty sure the only way TCS affects the map is to cut power when doing its job. I doubt it would have an effect on the map unless it was cutting power.

What's it likely to change? Who knows: timing, injection, fueling.

Pilotuh1b

 

[avc8130]

Pretty sure the only way TVS affects the map is to cut power when doing its job. I doubt it would have an effect on the map unless it was cutting power.

What's it likely to change? Who knows: timing, injection, fueling.

Pilotuh1b

Tcs definitely effects power and throttle response. You don't realize it until you ride around with tcs off for awhile and then switch back.

Flash tune will most likely never open up tcs in the ecu for the s10.

Ac

 

[Pilotuh1b]

Isn't that the same as saying ABS affects the brakes though? It's doing its job, just that you don't realise how often it does its job til it's there.

Pilotuh1b